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Re: Recording with gear using 32bit Float - The Recording Experience
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2019, 03:57:57 PM »
Would this - very small and inexpensive - box work for recording loud music then? If I understand the logic of 32 bit float, surely it would??

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Re: Recording with gear using 32bit Float - The Recording Experience
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2019, 04:47:02 PM »
yes but its mono

it is discussed here

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=191874.0

any recorder can record "loud music", provided you select a microphone with the proper sensitivity.

this is why people prefer DPA 4061s over the 4060s. Both can handle similar high SPL, but the 4061 has an output thats more appropriate for our application

as for the "logic of 32 bit float", you dont need 32 bits (or even 24-bit for that matter) to make a great recording... in fact there are tons of great recordings on 16bit digital and many more from analog gear that offered equivalent 70-80 dB dynamic range that 12-14 bits would allow.

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Re: Recording with gear using 32bit Float - The Recording Experience
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2019, 05:26:09 AM »
yes but its mono

it is discussed here

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=191874.0

any recorder can record "loud music", provided you select a microphone with the proper sensitivity.

this is why people prefer DPA 4061s over the 4060s. Both can handle similar high SPL, but the 4061 has an output thats more appropriate for our application

as for the "logic of 32 bit float", you dont need 32 bits (or even 24-bit for that matter) to make a great recording... in fact there are tons of great recordings on 16bit digital and many more from analog gear that offered equivalent 70-80 dB dynamic range that 12-14 bits would allow.

We’ll no, not all recorders that don’t have technology like this can record loud music. If I plug my mics into a voice recorder it won’t be able to handle it.

I know you don’t need 32 bit float to make a good recording. Funny enough I’ve made plenty of good recordings without it. That’s not the point of the discussion.

The deal breaker for me would be Mono, but I’d imagine it’s only a matter of time until the 32 Bit Float option is available via a very, very small handhand recorder like the Roland.
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Re: Recording with gear using 32bit Float - The Recording Experience
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2019, 05:38:43 AM »
We’ll no, not all recorders that don’t have technology like this can record loud music. If I plug my mics into a voice recorder it won’t be able to handle it.

nor can this, necessarily. They havent released any specs on max input level yet. i wouldnt expect it to be much out of range of the normal handheld, say 0 to +4 dBV or so, which very hot mics or a SBD could still overload

I know you don’t need 32 bit float to make a good recording. Funny enough I’ve made plenty of good recordings without it. That’s not the point of the discussion.

it kind of is, as it seems a lot of people misconstrue 32bit as being able to get around the practical limitations of the analog stages that precede it.

This other thread with a technical discussion of 32-bit float is worth a look, the input level limitations are discussed extensively

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=192100.0
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