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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2020, 01:26:18 PM »
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2020, 08:55:54 PM »
I asked in the last thread but I should have been more clear. Powering the MP10? (USB-C isn’t an option).

I have a hirose cable that should fit a talent cell. Is that really the best option?  Any particular talent cell I should look at?  The on/off switches make me nervous, but then again, so does recording on a MixPre10 that doesn’t have a hold switch....  :shrug

So far, I’m really digging this thing.



If we are making a “want” list for firmware:

It would be nice to have a hold function and maybe the ability to see levels horizontally (if only using two or four channels).
Mics:
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DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2020, 01:55:58 PM »
MixPre10 II

8 AA Eneloop Pro Battery Test.  Ignore if you're not interested.



I just did a test with 8 AA Eneloop Pro batteries and four DPA mics.  Got 2 hours and 27 minutes.  So that makes me confident I can get two channels on 8 AA’s alone.  But I need an external pack for more channels.

So, I guess my question is, do I go with the Sony L-mount option, or the Hirose (some external option)? 

Thoughts?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 02:20:25 PM »
MixPre10 II

8 AA Eneloop Pro Battery Test.  Ignore if you're not interested.



I just did a test with 8 AA Eneloop Pro batteries and four DPA mics.  Got 2 hours and 27 minutes.  So that makes me confident I can get two channels on 8 AA’s alone.  But I need an external pack for more channels.

So, I guess my question is, do I go with the Sony L-mount option, or the Hirose (some external option)? 

Thoughts?

Hirose with external of your choice
use the 8 "AA" for backup and hot swapping the externals

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2020, 03:39:50 PM »
MixPre10 II

8 AA Eneloop Pro Battery Test.  Ignore if you're not interested.



I just did a test with 8 AA Eneloop Pro batteries and four DPA mics.  Got 2 hours and 27 minutes.  So that makes me confident I can get two channels on 8 AA’s alone.  But I need an external pack for more channels.

So, I guess my question is, do I go with the Sony L-mount option, or the Hirose (some external option)? 

Thoughts?

Hirose with external of your choice
use the 8 "AA" for backup and hot swapping the externals

What's the most popular external people are using?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2020, 10:02:40 AM »
I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2020, 09:19:19 PM »
I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html

that looks sweet but boy is it pricey.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2020, 09:39:05 PM »
I know, I got a deal on a used setup with high capacity batteries and 2 chargers. It's my favorite battery setup and I still have a external usbc battery for a backup.

I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html

that looks sweet but boy is it pricey.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2020, 05:10:02 AM »
I see this is a new thread, so I guess I have to ask, how long now until the MixPre III-series comes along? ;-)

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2020, 04:29:30 PM »
How do I NOT record the mix track? 

I just want the ISO tracks on the card.

Is that possible?
« Last Edit: July 11, 2020, 06:06:54 PM by justink »
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2020, 06:32:51 PM »
in advanced mode
Rec L,R > off

you will see the L and R output busses no longer armed in red
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2020, 06:51:01 PM »
How do I NOT record the mix track? 

I just want the ISO tracks on the card.

Is that possible?

I suggest using Custom Mode

Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced

that will give full control over your ISOs from the gain knobs on the front

in advanced mode
Rec L,R > off

you will see the L and R output busses no longer armed in red

this will then eliminate the Mix Tracks which you do not want
which you can do from Custom Mode as well

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2020, 09:19:23 PM »
How do I NOT record the mix track? 

I just want the ISO tracks on the card.

Is that possible?

I suggest using Custom Mode

Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced


that will give full control over your ISOs from the gain knobs on the front

i think i am in that but i can't figure out how to back out to see if i am or not.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2020, 09:39:12 PM »
How do I NOT record the mix track? 

I just want the ISO tracks on the card.

Is that possible?

I suggest using Custom Mode

Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced


that will give full control over your ISOs from the gain knobs on the front

i think i am in that but i can't figure out how to back out to see if i am or not.

Menu 3rd page > System > Mode should say custom
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2020, 09:53:54 PM »
How do I NOT record the mix track? 

I just want the ISO tracks on the card.

Is that possible?

I suggest using Custom Mode

Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced


that will give full control over your ISOs from the gain knobs on the front

i think i am in that but i can't figure out how to back out to see if i am or not.

Menu 3rd page > System > Mode should say custom

it does say custom. 

Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced

got the mix grey'd out/off.  thanks for that.
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Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2020, 09:37:24 PM »
Here's another question.

If I decided not to do 32bit float and wanted to go down to 24 bit again... 

How would I control the analog gain before the A/D?  Is there a certain system setting to make that happen?  or could I use the

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Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced

and just drop the bit rate down to 24?  i don't think that would work though...  seems the knobs are always post A/D in that setting.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2020, 11:51:46 PM »
Back in the day, people were making racks for UA-5's out of dish racks from walmart.  i still have my UA-5 in the one I made.

has anyone figured out a DIY rack build to zip tie a battery to the MixPre10 while lifting the deck off the bottom of the back to keep the Hirose from crimping? 

I have a temp setup in my bag using velcro dividers that keeps the deck off the ground and the hirose from getting crimped.  but i'd like to attach the Talent Cell to it somehow.  I thought velcro but didn't want to sticky up the deck. 

Anyone have their own solutions?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2020, 04:44:05 PM »
Another question...

MixPre10 II:

Say I’m running two mics. Can I route those two mics to other open channels with a HPF engaged?

So....

Channel 1: Mic1 flat eq
Channel 2: Mic2 flat eq
Channel 3: Mic1 HPF
Channel 4: Mic2 HPF

Is that possible?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2020, 09:31:11 PM »
Another question...

MixPre10 II:

Say I’m running two mics. Can I route those two mics to other open channels with a HPF engaged?

So....

Channel 1: Mic1 flat eq
Channel 2: Mic2 flat eq
Channel 3: Mic1 HPF
Channel 4: Mic2 HPF

Is that possible?

No. You'd have to use external Y-leads. Only the 8-series can do that internally where you can route the same mic to as many channels as you like all with different processing and gain settings.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2020, 09:33:18 PM »
Here's another question.

If I decided not to do 32bit float and wanted to go down to 24 bit again... 

How would I control the analog gain before the A/D?  Is there a certain system setting to make that happen?  or could I use the

Quote
Rec = Advanced
Gain = Basic
Channel = Advanced

and just drop the bit rate down to 24?  i don't think that would work though...  seems the knobs are always post A/D in that setting.

Just select 24-bit - the unit will then auto reconfigure the architecture to 24-bit.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2020, 09:30:34 AM »
Thanks for always checking in with solid answers, Paul.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2020, 04:23:13 PM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2020, 05:35:21 PM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>


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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2020, 05:08:34 AM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

Or a low cost power module with a wide range voltage input and 1 minute backup power allowing battery hot swap?

Or possibility to configure the power on/off to star button and HP rotator function to a channel rotator. :)

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2020, 10:15:35 PM »


Or a low cost power module with a wide range voltage input and 1 minute backup power allowing battery hot swap?


with AA in the sled as "backup" I can hot swap USB batteries.....
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2020, 11:33:45 PM »
with AA in the sled as "backup" I can hot swap USB batteries.....
And with USB power, I can hot swap AA's!

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2020, 08:45:13 AM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

HOLD on a second!
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2020, 09:21:25 AM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

Will this update be applicable to the legacy MP6?
Mics: nbobs/480+ck61/62/63; C568EB; MKE2
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2020, 04:41:17 PM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

Will this update be applicable to the legacy MP6?



Yes!

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2020, 05:03:03 PM »
Of course!
<Tease mode on.>
BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
<Tease mode off.>

Will this update be applicable to the legacy MP6?



Yes!

Perhaps adding support for 32-bit Float files in Wave Agent?
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2020, 08:32:45 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2020, 10:28:00 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.

Wave Agent already works with Catalina .... it's all here in black and white ....
https://www.sounddevices.com/installing-wave-agent-on-mac-os-catalina/

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2020, 10:38:24 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.

Wave Agent already works with Catalina .... it's all here in black and white ....
https://www.sounddevices.com/installing-wave-agent-on-mac-os-catalina/

Thank you Paul!  That worked like a charm I must have missed something before.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2020, 12:30:24 PM »

MixPre Firmware 7.10

Released: July 28, 2020

https://www.sounddevices.com/download/

Introducing front panel locks. Press channel knobs 1, 2, and 3 to enter the new Front Panel menu. Lock transport controls, touchscreen, channel knobs, and/or the headphone knob to avoid accidental changes or when you are leaving your MixPre unattended.
Additional USB keyboard shortcuts:
Ctrl + M = Add cue marker
Ctrl + F = File transfer mode
9, 0 = Channel screens 9 and 10 on MixPre-10T and MixPre-10 II
Ctrl + 1-0 =  Toggle arm status of channels 1-10
Option + 1-0 = Solo channels 1-10
Ctrl + Option +  1-0: Mute channels 1-10
1 + 2 + 3 = Enters Front Panel menu
Change

Holding down a key on a USB keyboard for >0.5s now repeats the command. This improves usability of keyboards for setting gain and other functions.
Fixed

Elapsed time display is no longer missing from the home screen status bar of the MixPre-3, MixPre-3 II, MixPre-6, and MixPre-6 II.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2020, 07:30:32 PM »

MixPre Firmware 7.10

Released: July 28, 2020

https://www.sounddevices.com/download/

Introducing front panel locks. Press channel knobs 1, 2, and 3 to enter the new Front Panel menu. Lock transport controls, touchscreen, channel knobs, and/or the headphone knob to avoid accidental changes or when you are leaving your MixPre unattended.
Additional USB keyboard shortcuts:
Ctrl + M = Add cue marker
Ctrl + F = File transfer mode
9, 0 = Channel screens 9 and 10 on MixPre-10T and MixPre-10 II
Ctrl + 1-0 =  Toggle arm status of channels 1-10
Option + 1-0 = Solo channels 1-10
Ctrl + Option +  1-0: Mute channels 1-10
1 + 2 + 3 = Enters Front Panel menu
Change

Holding down a key on a USB keyboard for >0.5s now repeats the command. This improves usability of keyboards for setting gain and other functions.
Fixed

Elapsed time display is no longer missing from the home screen status bar of the MixPre-3, MixPre-3 II, MixPre-6, and MixPre-6 II.

SWEET!  Anyone try it out yet?  Throw a video on imgur.

BTW, THANKS PAUL!  I feel like you had a hand in this much desired feature.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2020, 09:16:26 PM »
Updating from v7.0 only took a single reboot, performed the update but haven't had time to use after updating.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2020, 12:45:36 PM »
Updated to v7.10 and the lock controls are great!  Haven't tested everything else out. 
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2020, 03:21:42 PM »
I've tested a few things and so far so good.  haven't tested live recording ;)  the issues I had on v6 with using mics with mp as a usb interface (for zoom etc) is gone.  that likely could have been user error but it worked as intended on 4 and 7.10.  I restored to factory and reconfigured for good measure....
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2020, 11:02:14 PM »
I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382309-REG/hawk_woods_sd_2_mixpwr_sound_devices_mix_pre.html
What's the difference in these two? I ordered the Hawk Woods one not seeing the other one but both are listed here at B&H.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2020, 10:28:45 AM »
Same sled one is just rebranded as a Sound devices model!  The only difference is price.

I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382309-REG/hawk_woods_sd_2_mixpwr_sound_devices_mix_pre.html
What's the difference in these two? I ordered the Hawk Woods one not seeing the other one but both are listed here at B&H.
Microtech Gefell m20's> Nbob KCY> Naiant PFA(60v) or AKG ck61's & ck63's> Naiant Actives> Sound Devices Mixpre-6 @24/48

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2020, 01:17:21 AM »
I've run a few shows now on my MixPre-10 II with 7.10 installed.  Loving it. My biggest grip with the mixpre was lack of a transport lock function.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2020, 07:15:12 PM »
I've run a few shows now on my MixPre-10 II with 7.10 installed.  Loving it. My biggest grip with the mixpre was lack of a transport lock function.

I just did my first run with it an hour ago for a soundcheck.  loving the lock options on everything.

hopefully all goes well tonight too!
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Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

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Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

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Sound Devices MixPre10 II
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2020, 05:48:20 AM »
im back on team mixpre. got a first-gen 6 again, and am attempting to break SD cards at max bitrate with 7.10 ;)

refresh me if im wrong, the first thread on the gen IIs was long... apart from the adjustable limiters, the analog input path is identical in both units, correct?

there was a comparison file offered from Sound Devices that compared low-level sounds on the II series in both 24-bit and 32-bit modes

if you scroll down that page you will see the comp was criticized for not implementing dither on the 24-bit file

i wonder how the non-32-bit series I handles 24-bit. I would imagine dither would be implemented by default, but as Paul mentioned in the subsequent discussion, it was a design/implementation decision, decided to be of no consequence to the average user

that said, if dither is implemented correctly, could the series I at low level equal the performance of the series II at 32-bit (or perhaps be superior for those who choose to use series II in 24-bit?)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2020, 10:45:29 PM »
im back on team mixpre. got a first-gen 6 again, and am attempting to break SD cards at max bitrate with 7.10 ;)

refresh me if im wrong, the first thread on the gen IIs was long... apart from the adjustable limiters, the analog input path is identical in both units, correct?

there was a comparison file offered from Sound Devices that compared low-level sounds on the II series in both 24-bit and 32-bit modes

if you scroll down that page you will see the comp was criticized for not implementing dither on the 24-bit file

i wonder how the non-32-bit series I handles 24-bit. I would imagine dither would be implemented by default, but as Paul mentioned in the subsequent discussion, it was a design/implementation decision, decided to be of no consequence to the average user

that said, if dither is implemented correctly, could the series I at low level equal the performance of the series II at 32-bit (or perhaps be superior for those who choose to use series II in 24-bit?)

dude, first time out with the II series... never looking back.  32bit is a game changer.  i don't foresee me ever needing another recorder ever again, unless i buy another mixpreX II just to have a second deck for multi stage festivals. 

32bit is magic and completely relieves all my show anxiety around setting levels.

now i can focus my show anxiety toward location and setup (it's never going away.  lol )
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

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Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2020, 11:04:26 PM »
im not really sold on 32-bit yet personally, though i ran my zoom that way in the few shows i had it before the world went to poop

i do appreciate the handiness of the modern multichannels like the zooms and mixpres, but the bit depth doesnt seem to be the limiting factor in the all-in ones, where the analog input stage is more of a compromise - in our typical situation you could fix your levels to a conservative level and not worry about it to the same effect

even the best dedicated pre and AD combo (which beats the all-in-ones by up to 20 dB or more in THD+N) cant really take advantage of the resolution that 32-bit float offers.

i did get through a full 7.5 hours at 8x24/192 with the mixpre6-I on FW 7.10 with a sandisk 128GB extreme without a hiccup, but thats just rolling file without real inputs.

I havent used that card in any other tests (and this is a different mixpre than the first one i did all the tests on) - so theres some variables to sort out. It could very well be they stopped the error reporting/file crash behavior and samples indeed are being dropped

ideally id like to see 'stable' operation (100 hrs at max bitrate with sinewaves that can demonstrate no dropped samples)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2020, 10:11:38 AM »
[snip..] if dither is implemented correctly, could the series I at low level equal the performance of the series II at 32-bit (or perhaps be superior for those who choose to use series II in 24-bit?)

[snip..] the bit depth doesnt seem to be the limiting factor in the all-in ones, where the analog input stage is more of a compromise - in our typical situation you could fix your levels to a conservative level and not worry about it to the same effect

even the best dedicated pre and AD combo (which beats the all-in-ones by up to 20 dB or more in THD+N) cant really take advantage of the resolution that 32-bit float offers.

To my mind, this is the primary question which remains outstanding concerning 32-bit recording:  Is the only real practical difference for tapers that for any given pair of microphones, one must first determine the optimal input level setting when recording in 24 bit?   After which one is able to "forget about levels" when recording in either mode?  24-bit being "set-once-then-forget" as long as the microphones used do not change, while 32-bit allows one to skip that initial set-once part? 

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2020, 07:33:46 PM »
I don't have any actual evidence, but I suspect a V3 at 24bit/48 that is absolutely dialed in running as hot as possible without clipping *might sound better than a MixPre II in 32bf/48, exported to 24/48.

But would the end result be THAT much better?  idk. 

What I do know is that hitting record on the 32bf/48 is much easier and less worry and sounds fantastic.

that would be a fun experiment.
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Mics:
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DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2020, 08:02:03 PM »
I don't have any actual evidence, but I suspect a V3 at 24bit/48 that is absolutely dialed in running as hot as possible without clipping *might sound better than a MixPre II in 32bf/48, exported to 24/48.

But would the end result be THAT much better?  idk. 

'better' in out application? probably 'different'. but if you looking at a preamp as what comes in goes out, on a distortion basis

mixpre: 0.005% max (@1 kHz, 22-22 kHz BW, gain=20 dB, -10 dBu in)
that translates to about -86dB of harmonic distortion, with a relatively hot -10dBu input bumped to +10dBu

we dont really have a spec on mixpre in a high gain situation

V3 is 0.0011% (-99dB of harmonic distortion) gaining 40dB from -20dBU to +20 dBU
V3 is 0.0046% (-87dB) at an impressive 60dB gain from -40 to +20

some of the top-of-the-line preamps like a benchmark MPA1, are 0.0002 to 0.0004% (-108 to -112dB) in THD+N

but some people prefer distortion in their sound (transformer pres. etc)
and thats not to say the mixpre AD stage isnt optimized for a lower input level.

for the separate component preamp the goal is to try to get the signal as hot as possible to maximize the capabilities of the ADC

remember that the EIN of all these components are pretty fixed around -130dB. low level signals will always be at a disadvantage which can be overcome to an extent by putting a sensitive cap on a mic with high output (like a 4006 on an MMP-A)

in our application (micing PA in a room with a dynamic range of like 60 dB at best), all of this is relatively academic, and features win. As far as simplicity im pretty sur ei could go into any venue and set the V3 at 25dB of gain and walk out with a good recording (indistinguishable from a 32-bit recording) with levels peaking between -25 and -8 dBFS.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2020, 11:07:33 PM »
I wish i had a local venue that I could go in with my entire locker of gear and just play "Radiohead - The National Anthem" on repeat and switch out pres, mics, A/D's, locations....  Maybe throw in some Pink Floyd.  That would be fun.

Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
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