Topic: Looking to Create a Live Archive - Any web developers have some spare time?

[lowlight10]

Looking to create a Ruston Kelly Live Archive similar to the NIN and RATM live archives.  I have enough experience with WordPress that I can edit on my own.  Just need help setting up the site.  Any web developers have some spare time and willing to help?  Thanks!

[lowlight10]

Bump...looking to try this again before his fall tour starts. Any help?

[rastasean]

Can you link to the examples you're talking about?

[lowlight10]

Can you link to the examples you're talking about?

Sure, here you go. The website can be even simpler than these, and I have basic editing experience in Wordpress. What I don't have is the knowledge to create the website and storage and security experience in terms of maintenance.

NIN: https://ninlive.com/
RATM: https://ratm.live/

[Axe]

I think you'll need some sort of budget to pay for the storage (unless all of the recordings are already on e.g. Archive and you don't mind depending on their uptime). Figuring out that part should help narrow down the solutions for the remaining parts (e.g. where is WordPress hosted).

[gambra]

The source code of the ratm.live site is available on GitHub here: https://github.com/tjj5036/ratm-live

Hasn't been updated in a few years though, may be able to get an updated version if you contact TJ?

[lowlight10]

I think you'll need some sort of budget to pay for the storage (unless all of the recordings are already on e.g. Archive and you don't mind depending on their uptime). Figuring out that part should help narrow down the solutions for the remaining parts (e.g. where is WordPress hosted).

Happy to discuss this.  As of now, I am the primary Ruston taper, and even I have only seen about 25 shows, so it shouldn't be too much to start.

[lowlight10]

The source code of the ratm.live site is available on GitHub here: https://github.com/tjj5036/ratm-live

Hasn't been updated in a few years though, may be able to get an updated version if you contact TJ?

I could, TJ is a friend, but I would have no idea what to do with that.

[Axe]

I think you'll need some sort of budget to pay for the storage (unless all of the recordings are already on e.g. Archive and you don't mind depending on their uptime). Figuring out that part should help narrow down the solutions for the remaining parts (e.g. where is WordPress hosted).

Happy to discuss this.  As of now, I am the primary Ruston taper, and even I have only seen about 25 shows, so it shouldn't be too much to start.

First do a little napkin math: determine the upper limit of the file size for a concert recording (this will depend on the audio encoding, and whether you want to host individual tracks or a zipped file is good enough), and multiply by how many recordings you want to host. This is the file size you need for the current recordings you have. Extrapolate for how many you anticipate having a year from now, two years from now, etc. How big of a disk would you need if you had a recording for every show they've played? etc...

Now look at the cloud storage companies (₲oog£e ₳mazo₦ M$ and maybe WeTransfer or Mega or sites like that??) and see what it will cost to get that storage. How does that fit into your budget?

[lowlight10]

I think you'll need some sort of budget to pay for the storage (unless all of the recordings are already on e.g. Archive and you don't mind depending on their uptime). Figuring out that part should help narrow down the solutions for the remaining parts (e.g. where is WordPress hosted).

Happy to discuss this.  As of now, I am the primary Ruston taper, and even I have only seen about 25 shows, so it shouldn't be too much to start.

First do a little napkin math: determine the upper limit of the file size for a concert recording (this will depend on the audio encoding, and whether you want to host individual tracks or a zipped file is good enough), and multiply by how many recordings you want to host. This is the file size you need for the current recordings you have. Extrapolate for how many you anticipate having a year from now, two years from now, etc. How big of a disk would you need if you had a recording for every show they've played? etc...

Now look at the cloud storage companies (₲oog£e ₳mazo₦ M$ and maybe WeTransfer or Mega or sites like that??) and see what it will cost to get that storage. How does that fit into your budget?

Thanks. Some answers:

Current: ~20 recordings at 1GB each
End of 2025: ~35 recordings, maybe some video too
Seeking: maybe start with 100GB?

2TB prices:

Google: $100/year - I would probably lean toward this to start
Dropbox: $120/year

Last weekend, I started creating the site using Google Workspace. It looks super amateur but I am happy to share it with anyone who wants to help.

Thanks!

[Dan33185]

I think you'll need some sort of budget to pay for the storage (unless all of the recordings are already on e.g. Archive and you don't mind depending on their uptime). Figuring out that part should help narrow down the solutions for the remaining parts (e.g. where is WordPress hosted).

Happy to discuss this.  As of now, I am the primary Ruston taper, and even I have only seen about 25 shows, so it shouldn't be too much to start.

First do a little napkin math: determine the upper limit of the file size for a concert recording (this will depend on the audio encoding, and whether you want to host individual tracks or a zipped file is good enough), and multiply by how many recordings you want to host. This is the file size you need for the current recordings you have. Extrapolate for how many you anticipate having a year from now, two years from now, etc. How big of a disk would you need if you had a recording for every show they've played? etc...

Now look at the cloud storage companies (₲oog£e ₳mazo₦ M$ and maybe WeTransfer or Mega or sites like that??) and see what it will cost to get that storage. How does that fit into your budget?

Thanks. Some answers:

Current: ~20 recordings at 1GB each
End of 2025: ~35 recordings, maybe some video too
Seeking: maybe start with 100GB?

2TB prices:

Google: $100/year - I would probably lean toward this to start
Dropbox: $120/year

Last weekend, I started creating the site using Google Workspace. It looks super amateur but I am happy to share it with anyone who wants to help.

Thanks!

I use the Google Drive 2TB plan and have no issues. I use my Google Rewards earnings to cover a little over half of it each year, so it works out really well. I just use Blogger to host my site, it's free and you can customize it any number of ways. I also have my own domain which costs me 15 bucks a year.

[lowlight10]

Thanks! I see how your posts are more of a blog format...makes sense. I am starting with a list format followed by individual pages for each show, but I may reconsider.

[RyanJ]

Always here to chat about setting something like this up. Although it seems daunting, just getting it started is the biggest thing. I know TJ would be happy to help discuss this.

I think the basic site to start is a great way to get your feet wet. Especially with not having too much of an archive to work with right now. I know the Rage recordings are all hosted on Google Drive, with no issues. I know Ruston is taper friendly. So that seems like a nice way to organize it without having the risk of anything being taken down. The nin live archive rents server space and then I had a good friend do all the backend stuff for it in order for it to operate there. TJ really went HAM with the new layout of the new site and even I am still trying to get used to it. As it had been an HTML driven site since 2010.

Will let you know that AWS was a terrible way to host recordings. When my main host decided to boot me off, I used it as an intermediate until finding something permanent and it was a PITA. It all came down to how many times a recording was accessed (downloaded) and how much was stored. There would be months where that would cost $100-250 alone. Brutal.

[morst]

Will let you know that AWS was a terrible way to host recordings. When my main host decided to boot me off, I used it as an intermediate until finding something permanent and it was a PITA. It all came down to how many times a recording was accessed (downloaded) and how much was stored. There would be months where that would cost $100-250 alone. Brutal.

I'm no expert at all, but I found AWS to be pretty simple to start with, but their entire biz model is probably getting you to pay for a lot of their services.


I was able to host a test site for a month for FREE, as long as I only ran one instance at a time, and utilized my bandwidth alarm warnings and reacted in time to them.


(this was before COVID so it's probably all different now anyhow so many years later!?!?!)

[lowlight10]

Always here to chat about setting something like this up. Although it seems daunting, just getting it started is the biggest thing. I know TJ would be happy to help discuss this.

Thanks bud! I will definitely bounce it off you and TJ before I send it to Ruston to take a look, all before any sort of launch. I think you're right, once I have the bare bones amateur site setup, it will be easier for someone with experience to polish it up.