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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #660 on: March 29, 2026, 02:16:20 PM »
This is going to sound stupid, but how the hell do you get the files off this thing?
I've set it to USB > Reader, but nothing I can prompt finds the recorder

Odd. I'm running current-day OSes (Windows 11, iOS) and the PR-2 isn't detected as a drive without USB > Reader for me. The issue I run into is upon disconnection, it can get stuck at the loading wheel, which requires a restart. You have to exit the Reader screen before unplugging for it to return to normal operation, it's sort of like a two ejection system.

I would also prefer using a card reader since those are quicker, but getting the microSD card out is a total pain.

The thin plastic construction is also showing its downsides. I've unfortunately dropped this unit twice and there are cracks along the side.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #661 on: March 29, 2026, 04:13:36 PM »

All I can think of is that I shouldn't be trying this with OSX 10.13 because its too old for the future.


Turns out...
That this was the problem.
mac OS 26.3.1 (a) loaded it with no problem.
So somewhere between OSX 10.13.3 and OS 26.3.1 (a) is where it starts working.
once again, lost in all the noise

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #662 on: April 04, 2026, 04:57:18 PM »
So this proved me to I can let it peak around -10 without any problems and clipping and no need to set that low.
I'm sorry to say, but the test you performed doesn't prove this at all. Yes, it is valid in case you'd be recording pure sine sounds, but I hope you record other things as well ;-)
Gutbucket mentioned the crest-factor, i.e. the 'peakyness' of the music you're recording, which depends on a lot of factors. The 'peakier' the music, the more safety margin you need with this device when setting the record level. A pure sine is not peaky at all...
Re-read his post and it will show you what safety margins you should apply in different circumstances

I grabbed another PR-2 after selling my first one

last night I ran it with a RiotBox and Schoeps mk4Vs with NBob actives
I was set up DFC about 15ft away from a reasonably loud band so I was getting the attack off the snare

I updated the firmware to 1.03 and still ran the levels under -10dB
I had maximum peaks between -11 and -10dB when I analyzed with my wave editor

I realize this is only one real situation test, but I feel fairly confident that the metering has been fixed by firmware updates

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #663 on: April 07, 2026, 08:33:47 AM »
I too have had Mac connection issues.
It totally seems hit or miss.
One time I had to use a flash drive to update firmware and another time not.
One time usb to transfer files and the next not
My Mac does t have usb c though so I think it might have to do more with the cable/adapter. I know the cable that came with my iPhone and adapter that came with the pr2 worked together while at least one usb a > c cable didn’t
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #664 on: April 16, 2026, 05:16:12 PM »
My PR2 shit the bed after like 3 uses. Won't make it past the logo screen while powering on... Guess i'm going to reach out to them.

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #665 on: April 20, 2026, 06:25:25 AM »
There's a Deity PR-2 ii at NAB..

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #666 on: April 20, 2026, 10:54:02 AM »
^ Hmmm
musical volition > vibrations > voltages > numeric values > voltages > vibrations> virtual teleportation time-machine experience
Better recording made easy - >>Improved PAS table<< | Made excellent- >>click here to for the Oddball Microphone Technique illustrated PDF booklet<< (note: Version 4 provided in individual sections rather than a single booklet)

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #668 on: April 20, 2026, 06:15:02 PM »
^ Only comments about PR2ii in that clip is that it incorporates the new quieter preamps from the PR4, and that stereo mode remains 24bit only.  :(  And as we speculated early on here at TS, he confirmed that when recording in stereo the twin paths through the 32bit AD converter are split to provide two separate 24bit channel paths.

If it has also been configured to accept a hotter mic-input before overloading, or alternately provide switchable 5V mic powering when set to line-input sensitivity, that change would address my biggest qualm with the original PR2.. along with switching the metering to peak-hold. 

Of course I wish it were also upgraded to provide 32-bit stereo recording as originally promised..
mostly because that would incorporate all the hardware bits needed to allow for recording 4 channels in 24bit mode, like the Tascam DR2d was able to do since 2010, except also providing 5V mic-power to all 4 channels. This would use both locking TRS jacks as stereo inputs, the headphone/line-out jack serving as the 2nd stereo input. Please please please.
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musical volition > vibrations > voltages > numeric values > voltages > vibrations> virtual teleportation time-machine experience
Better recording made easy - >>Improved PAS table<< | Made excellent- >>click here to for the Oddball Microphone Technique illustrated PDF booklet<< (note: Version 4 provided in individual sections rather than a single booklet)

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #669 on: April 21, 2026, 12:30:23 PM »
Waiting on the PR-2 iii with  32 bit stereo. 

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #670 on: April 24, 2026, 09:33:15 PM »
So this proved me to I can let it peak around -10 without any problems and clipping and no need to set that low.
I'm sorry to say, but the test you performed doesn't prove this at all. Yes, it is valid in case you'd be recording pure sine sounds, but I hope you record other things as well ;-)
Gutbucket mentioned the crest-factor, i.e. the 'peakyness' of the music you're recording, which depends on a lot of factors. The 'peakier' the music, the more safety margin you need with this device when setting the record level. A pure sine is not peaky at all...
Re-read his post and it will show you what safety margins you should apply in different circumstances

I grabbed another PR-2 after selling my first one

last night I ran it with a RiotBox and Schoeps mk4Vs with NBob actives
I was set up DFC about 15ft away from a reasonably loud band so I was getting the attack off the snare

I updated the firmware to 1.03 and still ran the levels under -10dB
I had maximum peaks between -11 and -10dB when I analyzed with my wave editor

I realize this is only one real situation test, but I feel fairly confident that the metering has been fixed by firmware updates

That's promising and hopefully they're truly indicative now and work like every other deck out. Luckily your band was loud so preamp noise floor isn't an issue.

I'm with @daspyknows - waiting on the iii which hopefully gets 32-bit float.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #671 on: April 24, 2026, 10:18:46 PM »
First impressions as someone with thousands of hours stealthing HRTF omnis wired up to R-09/M10/A10:

I just recorded 3 nights in a row with it, all successes aside from one set of DPAs needing a new plug (locking right angle plugs ordered).

The PR-2 seems nice on first tries and I was able to learn to turn it on, lock/unlock + start/stop recording, and turn it off entirely by feel without it leaving my pocket before my first show.
I find it a bit difficult to unlock with my non-dominant hand (perhaps partly due to old injuries).

As with the R-09/M10/A10, I can peek at the LEDs looking down into my pocket to confirm operation.  They're even more visible up top than the other units.

Levels:

For the A10/M10, I used a battery pack and line-in due to the mic-in having too much gain, but -12dB is enough headroom on the PR-2.
I kept it at 0dB for the DPA 4063 (legacy) and peaked at -3.28dBFS (safe, but too close for comfort) from a solo drummer maybe 10' away.
0dB on the PR-2 is probably close to level 1 (lowest mic-in) on the A10.
I'll go -3dB or even -6dB in many loud situations.
I'll setup a test sometime at home to see how accurate the mic gain adjustment is compared to the actual recording.

Niceties:

It functions fine as a card reader on my Linux workstation depending on port and USB cable.
Unlike the M10/A10, it doesn't stay on and drain battery after unplugging the USB, another plus.
If USB isn't working well with your computer, try a different cable and/or port.
USB ports attached to the motherboard itself are typically the most reliable, as are shorter cables.

Being able to easily replace the batteries is nice, once again.
1.5v rechargeable Li-ion batteries I have from Coast and EBL should work and give maximum voltage to mics.  Will test someday...
Expect alkaline and Ni-mh batteries to give mics less power.

Sidus Audio app supports syncing the time from the phone (which is synchronized to the network).
No more digging through menus and trying to get sub-minute accuracy on other recorders.

Tips/notes:

* As others have noted, changing levels from the app slider is tricky.
  Instead, use the app to make a new preset for every possible level you might use and change levels by loading presets.
  Or just pick a low level, rely on software gain in post, and use a dedicated headphone amp (doubles as a preamp for car stereos) to listen on the trip home.

* Having time synced with your phone also means timestamps from your phone camera can map to times of your recording with 1s accuracy.
  It makes mapping still images to audio events easier.
  To make tracking recordings easier, I try to take a black photo of my hand covering the lens to get approximate timestamps of gaps in between songs.
  In post, I look for black thumbnails in my photo dump for each night to get timestamps for tracking.
  (this works with any recorder as I started doing it with the A10 last year, but the PR-2 is easier to get accurate times with)

* I may set the recording mode to Always and just have it start recording once turned on, but that's roughly a 5-6s delay.  That should be easier than unlocking while keeping the unit in my pocket in situations where I don't (or can't) have a phone out.

Downsides:

* No 5s pre-record buffer of the M10/A10 (or 10s of the D100)
* 3s hold delay for starting a recording after unlocking (WTF!)
* no start timestamps in filename unlike A10, but the statx(2) birth time as reported by the GNU stat(1) command on most Linux systems seems accurate
  (you can also look at the last modification time and subtract the track length)

Other notes:

I've ordered locking right angle 3.5mm connectors (Cable Techniques) since I need to reterminate DPA 4063s anyways due to plug wear (some scratches in sound showing up).
24-bit is fine by me with 144dB dynamic range and DPA 4061/4063s can't handle all of it due to self-noise and venues having well over 20dB ambient noise.
As a C programmer who's dabbled in audio software: native 32-bit float recording is marketing fluff and I archive audio directly to FLAC to save space and storage wear.

I've yet to try DPA 4061s (legacy), as mine are all badly worn (bought used) and also need to be reterminated at some point.

Looking to order DPA 4661 Core+ mics since DPA 4063 are only available in regular Core.

I'll always use right angle plugs if available.  They're less likely to act as a lever to rip jacks apart regardless of locking.  If it gets misthreaded I can still tape them down more easily and then can be taped down even with non-locking jacks.


EDIT 2026-04-30: apparently locking right angle plugs aren't stereo when hooked up to non-locking jacks.
That means I can't use my heavy duty DPA 4063 mics with my A10/M10, anymore (I still have my standard cable DPA 4063s).
I'm thinking I'll go back to Neutrik 3.5mm right angle plugs for compatibility and use 1" painter's tape to keep plugs from rotating in the jack.
The lower-half of the PR-2 is great for wrapping extra tape around, at least!

Also not a fan of the rubberized texture, in my experience with other products they'll get sticky and nasty in a few years.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2026, 02:39:45 AM by dabbler »

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #672 on: Yesterday at 06:26:43 PM »
Not good: Legacy DPA 4063 into PR-2 still seems to overload when stack taping from the front row at a bass-heavy industrial metal show.
It was loud, but definitely not the loudest show I've recorded, either.

My recording peaked at -4.44 dBFS when set to -3dB gain, so still safe on the levels, but there's audible distortion.

I recall 4061s struggled differently due to being underpowered and reading jerryfreak's posts on audiosciencereview.com seem to indicate the 4063/4061 mics might still be too sensitive for my use case.

Here's a sample of last nights overload: https://archive.org/details/dpa4063_pr2-overloaded.flac

My older setup for metal shows (DPA 4063 > 8.4V Li-ion battery > A10/M10 line-in) didn't struggle nearly as much in the past.

In summary, SPL handling order for my gear (best to worst) is as follows:

1. DPA 4063 > 8.4V > anything line-in (audible distortion only in very rare cases)
2. DPA 4063 > PR-2 mic-in (most rock shows)
3. DPA 4063 > A10 mic-in (quiet shows)

Strongly considering 4062s, but not sure I can get heavy duty cables (no 4662).

 

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