Topic: Low End Blowout

[aaronji]

Get a deck with multiple gain-ranged ADCs (such as a MixPre). They have really broad dynamic ranges, which allows you to run very conservative levels with no risk of an over. You can peak quite low and have no audible noise after amplification. Analog limiters provide a last ditch margin of safety.

[BlueSky71]

so if you were to capture these blowouts, would you present them to the listener(s)?

[mterry]

so if you were to capture these blowouts, would you present them to the listener(s)?

Yeah! It was for goose 9/23 and phish 10/8. I deleted the original files, but I’ll upload a snippet of the phish show and share the archive link to goose (I have all the sections of distortion mentioned in the source info)

[mterry]

https://spaces.hightail.com/space/1JCnQ9E78s/files/fi-ff860764-ab4f-42d5-a844-5127a7473c0e/fv-724274a2-fd10-48d4-868f-e93e975fe2bc/phish2023-10-08.165930.nashville.dpa2012.terry.flac2496.zip

That’s for phish, the section of distortion is during BoaF, it was also on another source as well (so it wasnt just me!)


https://archive.org/details/goose2023-09-23

*Low end distortion during the following:
 - Earthling or Alien @ 11:42
 - The Empress Of Oreganos (2nd Section) @ 3:29

[blee421]

When this happens I go into the spot that is clipping and highlight it. Then use EQ on just the bass bomb and it cleans it right up. It’s not like I want to listen to that rattle my speakers or blow speakers in the car. We are all running our decks lower typically and when that shit hits it’s still going to go over.

[Top Hat]

This would be the perfect situation to run a good set of Guns or hypers instead of cards
I normally run @ -12db even @ 32bf. When i run into this ish I will sculpt the bass signal in post after normalizing. Almost always a drop spike @ 125hz and if the pull is kicky another drop spike around 50hz and an increase at 30hz and 100hz. Just my 2 cents but it appears to soften things up a bit while keeping the dynamics.

[mterry]

Update!

Ran a V2 in front of the Mini-Me for phish in STL. We were way up close Saturday night and got hit with a Mike bomb during hood. Ran the soft limit on the mini-me and happy to report.....NOT A DAMN ISSUE! Next up, goose in September which will also be a very close FOB situation. Woo!

[todd e]

having run the mme for close to 20yrs, no reason for all that SLC. 
just let the lights get red, if even for a few seconds, i promise you cannot hear the clip when playing back (unedited)

[grawk]

apogee's soft limiter is pretty great

[mterry]

having run the mme for close to 20yrs, no reason for all that SLC. 
just let the lights get red, if even for a few seconds, i promise you cannot hear the clip when playing back (unedited)

Not sure I get this. Especially if you listen to the clips I posted...

[todd e]

having run the mme for close to 20yrs, no reason for all that SLC. 
just let the lights get red, if even for a few seconds, i promise you cannot hear the clip when playing back (unedited)

Not sure I get this. Especially if you listen to the clips I posted...

like grawk said earlier, qft

"I personally wouldn’t want to eliminate musical content when there is plenty of headroom to capture it all."

are you hearing the clips in posted samples or the loss of music? 
i hear the loss of music with the SLC, just saying

ymmv, but i could never understand the curves that apogee included. 
from the theory perspective, you are leaving without the full recording.  id rather do the editing after the fact, knowing that i caught all the available wave form.

[jbell]

32bit recorder and problem solved!!

[mterry]

All I know is what has worked and what hasn't.

Thanks for everyone's input