Topic: Zoom’s 32-bit float m/s - Instamic Pro Plus C

[chewed]

I ordered a stereo unit, but Stereo is 24 Bit only, which would not be terrible, but every time I turn the unit on, it defaults to 32Bit Mono which I keep forgetting. So I ordered a second unit rather than try to train my aging brain, and am really pleased. It is easy to synch, and easy to stick almost anywhere. The sound is very good too.

I have reported this behaviour to Zoom. It is a bug that appeared after the last update. They have not fixed it yet, as far as I know.

[mepaca]

I ordered a stereo unit, but Stereo is 24 Bit only, which would not be terrible, but every time I turn the unit on, it defaults to 32Bit Mono which I keep forgetting. So I ordered a second unit rather than try to train my aging brain, and am really pleased. It is easy to synch, and easy to stick almost anywhere. The sound is very good too.

I have reported this behaviour to Zoom. It is a bug that appeared after the last update. They have not fixed it yet, as far as I know.

I recently updated mine and it does not exhibit this behavior. It stays as set at 24 bit stereo.

[chewed]

I ordered a stereo unit, but Stereo is 24 Bit only, which would not be terrible, but every time I turn the unit on, it defaults to 32Bit Mono which I keep forgetting. So I ordered a second unit rather than try to train my aging brain, and am really pleased. It is easy to synch, and easy to stick almost anywhere. The sound is very good too.

I have reported this behaviour to Zoom. It is a bug that appeared after the last update. They have not fixed it yet, as far as I know.

I recently updated mine and it does not exhibit this behavior. It stays as set at 24 bit stereo.

Oh, I see. Must be different for different devices then. I tried updating the firmware 5 minutes ago and I still have the 32-bit problem on my Instamic (the non-USB-C-version).

[datbrad]

I have the app setting for 24/48 and the mics power up that way only if I have the app open before I pair them. If the mics are turned on first, default settings are used.

[mepaca]

I have the app setting for 24/48 and the mics power up that way only if I have the app open before I pair them. If the mics are turned on first, default settings are used.

Interesting, mine always seem to retain the 24/48 stereo even if the mic is powered first.

[chewed]

I have the app setting for 24/48 and the mics power up that way only if I have the app open before I pair them. If the mics are turned on first, default settings are used.

Interesting, mine always seem to retain the 24/48 stereo even if the mic is powered first.

I can add to this that my Instamic only goes back to 32 bit mono if I press the settings menu. As long as I am in the recording menu and never go into the settings, I maintain 24 bit stereo.

[dallman]

I have the app setting for 24/48 and the mics power up that way only if I have the app open before I pair them. If the mics are turned on first, default settings are used.

Interesting, mine always seem to retain the 24/48 stereo even if the mic is powered first.

I can add to this that my Instamic only goes back to 32 bit mono if I press the settings menu. As long as I am in the recording menu and never go into the settings, I maintain 24 bit stereo.

What Firmware version are you on? As far as I can tell, both of mine will revert to 32Bit Mono every time I turn it on, no matter what. I believe I have the latest firmware, but I need to check that.

[chewed]

I have the app setting for 24/48 and the mics power up that way only if I have the app open before I pair them. If the mics are turned on first, default settings are used.

Interesting, mine always seem to retain the 24/48 stereo even if the mic is powered first.

I can add to this that my Instamic only goes back to 32 bit mono if I press the settings menu. As long as I am in the recording menu and never go into the settings, I maintain 24 bit stereo.

What Firmware version are you on? As far as I can tell, both of mine will revert to 32Bit Mono every time I turn it on, no matter what. I believe I have the latest firmware, but I need to check that.

Firmware version 2.3.49, app vesion 1.6.5

[Gutbucket]

Can anyone point me to a few good examples of recordings made in M/S stereo mode?

[dallman]

What Firmware version are you on? As far as I can tell, both of mine will revert to 32Bit Mono every time I turn it on, no matter what. I believe I have the latest firmware, but I need to check that.

Firmware version 2.3.49, app vesion 1.6.5

Thanks!

[shadowfax1007]

So I took my newly acquired, 2nd hand Pro Plus (Mono, non-C) out for a test the other night. Pretty happy with the result! Captured basically dead centre in front of soundboard.
Sure it doesn't compare to my 4061s or any of my other gear, but for a bit of kit that is all in one and so small, I'm not complaining. Will be especially good to keep handy for gigs that I am super hesitant about smuggling gear into. The stereo and C version isn't readily available in Australia, and I scored this very cheap online 2nd hand so I'm happy.

Converted from Mono to Dual Mono in post - but otherwise that's the raw sound.

[colargol]

I brought my new Pro Plus C Stereo out to a show last weekend.

I also brought my other regular setup: MK41s > Nbob actives > Riotbox > PR-2

I only do  , and this night was no exception. I normally use something like an xy setup in hat with the MK41s, but to accomodate the instamic, I pointed the MK41s to the sides (right mic to right side, left mic to left side, 70-80 degree angle and 5 cm distance). Then I put the instamic in the middle, and taped the show with both setups.

I think I need to look into getting new firmware for the instamic, because I had a little bit of issues with the starting and stopping recording through the app, but otherwise it worked fine.

The result...? Not surprisingly, the Schoeps based setup gave a better result, and anything else would have been a bit shocking. Have a look at the attachments, entire show in the RX spectrum view. However, as a backup recording setup, or when you just want to have less stuff to carry and set up, the instamic performed really well. With a bit of EQing, I would not have been terribly disappointed if the instamic recording was my only recording of the show.

All in all, pretty happy with the instamic so far. It is quite amazing to compare it to the stuff I lugged around many years ago...

[Gutbucket]

Thanks for those comparative spectral response graphs.

Instamic looks very similar up to 5Khz, with a dip followed by a rising response above there.  That generally correlates with the samples I've heard. And as long as the curve is relatively smooth it can probably be compensated for with EQ as required rather easily.  I've no doubt the rising response is intentional, since its typical for clarity enhancement of a lavalier intended for voice pickup mounted off-axis on the talent's chest.  But it also make makes for something akin to a diffuse field response helpful when recording from farther away, and might help compensate for high frequency attenuation from a windscreen or mounting under fabric.

I'd like to mod a few by putting a DPA 4060/1 in there in place of the MEMS, but doubt doing so is reasonably possible

[adrianb]

This has just become available in the UK and I have taken the plunge on the stereo version at £199.

I’m planning to use this for stealthy field recordings, so hoping the noise levels are not too high.

Also hoping it will enable me to record a few gigs that I have coming up. I’ve not smuggled my recording equipment into any of the gigs I went to last year. I think my patience has given up on me as I’ve got older and I can’t be bothered with hiding cables and microphones anymore. Lets see if the simplicity of this device can renew my interest in recording gigs, and the quality it okay.

Mainly getting it for field recordings though.

[mepaca]

Noise really shouldn't be a factor. If the bluetooth disconnects, which it probably will, it is still running. Pretty cool little
device that sounds better than it has any right to.