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ADK A-51 TL question
« on: August 12, 2004, 11:52:46 AM »
So I have been researching these mics.  I have gathered that split omni's kick ass.
what tbar do you use for this? how wide to you spread your mics?  if you spread
too far, do you clamp on to someone elses stand? what is a good clamp to get?

if running card, hyper or figure 8, what recording patterns are best?
how tbar is best suited for these?

I just am having a hard time imaging what ortf or din or xy looks
like with LD mics.

Thanks everyone!

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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2004, 12:03:50 PM »
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2004, 12:50:12 PM »
ok, i'm getting a clear picture now.
so really it would be beneficial to have a couple bars, maybe
a shure vert bar and a t-bar for ortf and din.

how about blumlein? i see that shure vert bar, but what is keeping those two mics in that position?

thanks for the pics!  (worth a 1000 words  ;D )
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2004, 03:05:52 PM »

>>> Ask Brian Costigan about his Shure vertical bar mod for the TL's!!
Much better than my rig in the pictures.

I disagree, that 4 mic bar kicks ass. 
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2004, 04:20:09 PM »
I split mine about 3ft with a nifty and cheap solution using a clamp and a 3foot bar that the shockmounts screw onto...wish I could remember the hardware parts and where I got them ???
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2004, 04:27:42 PM »
is there a standard for split omnis?
or is it just trial and error?
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2004, 04:31:28 PM »
The standard on DPA's website says 1 foot apart for every 3 feet from the sound source.  I don't think that is quite realistic for most people, as getting cables that long would be difficult, not to mention blocking at two stands so far apart.

At horning's hideout, I ran with mine about 20 feet apart.  I borrowed a stand from another guy who ended up patching out of me that day.  The results were good. 
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2004, 01:02:34 PM »
thanks to all for posting and sharing information.  a big +t to all! ;D

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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2004, 01:43:33 PM »
I ran 25' apart for moe at High Sierra and we were 30' back and I think that recording turned out amazing. Its on the archive if you want to check it out. The image that running split gives is very realistic to the source and besides its fun to do. ;D
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2004, 03:33:16 PM »
I look forward to running the omni's that far apart some time...just need another stand
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2004, 03:52:23 PM »
the times i have run split have been 4' and 8' both were onstage.  If i get the chance i will try and run a bigger spread.
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2004, 04:24:20 PM »

>>> Ask Brian Costigan about his Shure vertical bar mod for the TL's!!
Much better than my rig in the pictures.

I disagree, that 4 mic bar kicks ass. 

the 4 mic bar is a good piece of gear, but Brian's LD mod for the Shure Bar is much lighter to carry any distance, lighter on your stand, especially w/ the bigger mics!!
Its funny, b'cuz I never actually tried Brians mod, i sold the mics not long after I got it ;D

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i have the mod for the vert bar and i have the t-bar.  it is nice to have both, but like you have in that picture, with the 4 mic bar, you can have someone else attach to the vert bar.  with my stand, weight is not really a big deal.  also, carrying around the t-bar is hardly anything extra, relative to the extra batteries i usually carry around.
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2004, 05:23:37 PM »
thanks to all for posting and sharing information.  a big +t to all! ;D

hey moke, what happened to the lezies?

massive headache slowing thought process to a crawl today,....... :-X

it'll prolly all  make sense tomorrow, but for now,.... say what? ???
lezies?

+ backatcha

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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2004, 06:54:49 PM »
I look forward to running the omni's that far apart some time...just need another stand

clamp ;D
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Re: ADK A-51 TL question
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2004, 11:28:50 PM »
I look forward to running the omni's that far apart some time...just need another stand

clamp ;D

good point
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