Difference Beween the m148 and m248?

[nickgregory]

and you wont, they are the most amazing pre made for our purposes.

so I am bound to start a holy war here, but opinions may vary.

not dissing the m148, but 20dbs of gain can be too much for some mics.  I know that MG users for example have to run the pad if your taping FOB....

but as always ymmv

[Tim]

and you wont, they are the most amazing pre made for our purposes.

so I am bound to start a holy war here, but opinions may vary.

not dissing the m148, but 20dbs of gain can be too much for some mics.  I know that MG users for example have to run the pad if your taping FOB....

but as always ymmv

I don't know about that. Have you run one? The MG/Oade Pre combo was fairly common in Panic circles for awhile, I would have thought I would have heard something about that.

[nickgregory]

and you wont, they are the most amazing pre made for our purposes.

so I am bound to start a holy war here, but opinions may vary.

not dissing the m148, but 20dbs of gain can be too much for some mics.  I know that MG users for example have to run the pad if your taping FOB....

but as always ymmv

I don't know about that. Have you run one? The MG/Oade Pre combo was fairly common in Panic circles for awhile, I would have thought I would have heard something about that.

Dave Thoma runs MG200/210s>M148>Mod SBM1 right now and he runs it with the pad, as he had a hell of a time getting the sbm1 above the 2/3 range.

[Tim]

really. I had never heard anyone mention that! Thanks for the info, I'm storing that one away.

FWIW - Doug can and will modify the output to your needs whe he builds it for you. I have no idea if he can or will mod a unit later, but it couldn't hurt to ask.

[goose]

What are the going prices for the m248?

ive never seen one go for less than 750, i think new they were over 1k?

to add: my asking price on mine is in that neighborhood, and somewhat negotiable   shameless plug.

248s sold originally for $900, but have not been made for several (over 5) years.  They typically are sold around 750 as jonny stated.

[Tony B]

Whoa...I know a 2-3 max on the SBM-1 (mod or no) would make me nervous. I'm settling into my V3 as we speak, but it's never to early to start looking on the horizon, and the m148>V3 combo is intriguing, in its own way....

WHY CAN'T I JUST BE HAPPY?  

[Tim]

Goose! Got those tapes, thanks man... they sound great, nice work!

[goose]

Good to hear you got them Tim, thanks.  I need some info from you, look for a PM at some point.

[nickgregory]

really. I had never heard anyone mention that! Thanks for the info, I'm storing that one away.

FWIW - Doug can and will modify the output to your needs whe he builds it for you. I have no idea if he can or will mod a unit later, but it couldn't hurt to ask.

I dont think you would encounter that running from the section...but if you are running way FOB, as Dave does in some cases (and I do when possible),the SPLs can be a bit much.

That being said I also thought the "most amazing pre for our purposes was a bit over the top" but hey, what do I know, I still think the MP2>Mod SBM1 made some smoking tapes...and the V3 is continuing that tradition!  It depends alot of what you look for in your tapes I do believe....and since we all hear things a little differently...

[Tim]

I ran it fob primarily, and the Panic tapes are from the mid 90's when policy was just like DMB's... suprised I never heard of any problems.

[nickgregory]

I ran it fob primarily, and the Panic tapes are from the mid 90's when policy was just like DMB's... suprised I never heard of any problems.

honestly it may be that people ran the sbm1 low.  I have always heard the rumor that if you run it below 3 you will have audible noise issues, but I never proved it in, or heard an actual tape supporting it....so who knows, it may be overkill to run the pad if the sbm1 stories of noise arent true...

[jacallery]

It is the mod that causes the sbm1 to be run that low. He can & will adjust the mod (even old ones)
so that the resistor circuit can be run about 4-5 notches higher on the sbm-1 with high gain mics.
I woupd think that running themic pad to compensate would be worse than the low levels on the sbm1.
I have never heard noise on the sbm1 below 3 FWIW

[nickgregory]

didnt realize it was the mod causing that....thanks for the info!

[marc0789]

and you wont, they are the most amazing pre made for our purposes.

so I am bound to start a holy war here, but opinions may vary.

not dissing the m148, but 20dbs of gain can be too much for some mics.  I know that MG users for example have to run the pad if your taping FOB....

but as always ymmv

I don't know about that. Have you run one? The MG/Oade Pre combo was fairly common in Panic circles for awhile, I would have thought I would have heard something about that.

Dave Thoma runs MG200/210s>M148>Mod SBM1 right now and he runs it with the pad, as he had a hell of a time getting the sbm1 above the 2/3 range.

I can't get the gain on the modsbm1 over 6, unless it's acoustic music, then I have to pretty much open it wide. normal levels for fob loud rock, around 5. but dpas are pretty low output. really, though, as long you don't have to go lower than 4 for the mod, is it a problem?

[gewwang]

I used to run into that problem all the time running mg m210>beyer mv100>sbm1 (with no mod). The highest I could ever run the sbm was at 3.5 and that was typically in small clubs in NYC (Wetlands about 5 times) but also DMB at Giants stack and WSP Central Park section.