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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #270 on: October 29, 2006, 01:44:39 AM »
As I stated before. Portable card reader/writer on the drive home d/l and it makes for a quick transfer.

I have a mini jack>cassette for listening on the drive home but I'm thinking of getting a new stereo for the car and was wondering if the new car stereos that have the mini inputs for mp3 palyers will work with a mini>mini from the 660.

I guess I should just take the 660 into the store.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #271 on: October 29, 2006, 10:55:15 PM »
My old Dell laptop does not support the hi speed USB, but it's a good reliable machine.  When I replace my laptop with something from the 21st century I'll start using the card reader.   ;)   

In the mean time the built in USB on my Marantz works fine.

As far as the whole CF brand issue:

I did base noise level comparisons by recording with pad off, no input to the XLR, gain wide open.

Sandisk 4GB Type 1 has a baseline noise level that is identical to the 256MB Lexar CF that came with the unit, and I have had no issues with using the Sandisk 4GB CF card.

EDIT - I have now seen some Card Errors with the Sandisk 4GB CF and am switching to Lexar 2GB CF.

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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #272 on: October 30, 2006, 01:46:44 PM »
I listened to some of the blueground undergrass show I taped (1st set -20db, 2nd set -10db).  The levels for the -10db were -6db with a few hits in the red and the 1st set with the -20db pad running the levels hardly got over -20db. I'll have to listen again but the -20db recorded at a lower level actually sounds a little better than running -10db in the orange all night. I'm going to try and figure out a way to get this out so other PMD660 users can have a listen. I'm interested in what others think, I may just be going crazy.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #273 on: October 30, 2006, 05:41:27 PM »
My phantom power is not working now.  Maybe this unit was screwed somehow... Its going back to Doug and fortunatly its within the 30 day warrenty.  Any one know how he's (Doug Oade) doing?  I have to send this unit back but the shop is closed.   Being on Ratdog Tour for the next two and half weeks sucks without a recording devise... O well there always next tour....that road goes on forever
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #274 on: October 30, 2006, 05:49:02 PM »
Doug is doing better and will be back at the bench on the 7th i believe.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #275 on: November 03, 2006, 06:15:45 PM »
Well I tried the Pad last night at Derek Trucks... Just wasn't enough ooomph to give me the kind of levels I wanted.

I've also come to the distinct conclusion that the Battery indicator is absolutely useless in the NiMH mode.  From absolutely full to dead within one song... that's just no type of warning for the hot swap.  Changing more often is going to be the key.

Also got an initial card error that caused me to miss the first tune.  After pulling the batteries twice because of the lockup two formats got me rolling again.

I guess everything has it's idiosyncrasies.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #276 on: November 03, 2006, 07:35:33 PM »
As far as the batteries. What kind of chargers are people using for the NiMH? I ask this because the only times I have had problems with batteries (after learning about the contacts) failing was with a group of that had one low charged battery.

I use a LaCrosse charger and it can tell you how much charge you get on each battery. The last two times I had the 660 shut down was when I had one battery that only charged about 1200 mAh and I figured it is only one battery if should matter.....wrong.  >:(

http://www.thomas-distributing.com/la_crosse_bc-900_battery_charger.php


After each use I set the charger to discharge the whole battery and then recharge it...usually achiving 2.5 Ah each. I just bought 16 Energizers on Ebay and with that I set the charger to Refresh Mode (- discharges and recharges up to 20 cycles or until rechargeable battery is refreshed to full capacity. User Selectable. )  and it will take about a week to get them into shape. I did run the discharge mode with the brand new batteries and it said it only charged each battery to 1.2 to 1.4 Ah each and still said they were full, so I put them in the Refresh mode and now they say full and all four are about 2.5 Ah each. In addition I always set my charge time to the lowest setting of 200mA/h and get good results.


Yes, don't trust the battery indicator on the 660....just have freshly charge batteries and you should be good.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #277 on: November 04, 2006, 12:06:47 PM »
Quote from: tfs8271 on November 03, 2006, 07:35:33 PM
As far as the batteries. What kind of chargers are people using for the NiMH? I ask this because the only times I have had problems with batteries (after learning about the contacts) failing was with a group of that had one low charged battery.

I use a LaCrosse charger and it can tell you how much charge you get on each battery. The last two times I had the 660 shut down was when I had one battery that only charged about 1200 mAh and I figured it is only one battery if should matter.....wrong.  >:(

http://www.thomas-distributing.com/la_crosse_bc-900_battery_charger.php


After each use I set the charger to discharge the whole battery and then recharge it...usually achiving 2.5 Ah each. I just bought 16 Energizers on Ebay and with that I set the charger to Refresh Mode (- discharges and recharges up to 20 cycles or until rechargeable battery is refreshed to full capacity. User Selectable. )  and it will take about a week to get them into shape. I did run the discharge mode with the brand new batteries and it said it only charged each battery to 1.2 to 1.4 Ah each and still said they were full, so I put them in the Refresh mode and now they say full and all four are about 2.5 Ah each. In addition I always set my charge time to the lowest setting of 200mA/h and get good results.


Yes, don't trust the battery indicator on the 660....just have freshly charge batteries and you should be good.


I have the 90 min. charger that Oade sells. Only discharged my batteries once we I bought them other than that I charge them after every use. I have two sets so I swap out at the set break of the band is playing two sets. It's probably not necessary but heck I got em so I might as well use them. The biggest problem I've had is with alkaline. I used some energize e2's and the indicator went down to half after just 30 minutes. I have never gotten any consitency out of alkaline.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #278 on: November 04, 2006, 12:27:39 PM »
I fully charge my energizers 2500 aHm just after a show & then fully  recharge them agin just before i leave for a show ..  have 3 sets that i do this with & all sets come to the shows ..  with a brand new set of alky's as the last chance backup .. that has stopped all my batt problems  ...   i use the new Energizer charger that is home & car usable
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #279 on: November 04, 2006, 01:15:28 PM »
I had another set go down on me last night.  I'm re-thinking the shim thing.  Is that what you folks are doing to get longer times? Just wedge a buisness card in there somehow?  I should be able to get three hours out of a set even with the meters on. The Sandisk has now suddenly decided to give me Card Errors as well.  WTF?  Everything was on cruise for a while now I feel like I'm back to using an M1 with an iffy transport.  >:(  :'( :lol:
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #280 on: November 04, 2006, 02:20:55 PM »
what batteries are u using??
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #281 on: November 04, 2006, 03:09:21 PM »
Quote from: agave on November 04, 2006, 02:20:55 PM
what batteries are u using??

I'm using 2500maH Powerex Batteries and one of thier chargers.  Now I did use the fast charge last instead of the slow charge so that may have something to do with it.  I've got to really get to the bottom of this CF card thing.  I actually tried to start the show using "peak only" but I kept getting the card error, when I reset everything I was back to regular meters.

I'm going to see if a scandisc pulls up anything on the card.

I'll probably get the New Lacrosse when it comes out later this month.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #282 on: November 04, 2006, 03:42:33 PM »
switch to the energizers they fit really really tight in the 660 .. i had a set of sony batt's that doug sent me & they fit very loose & would fail after 2 hours  soo all batts are not made  the same..  as for the card do a reformat on your pc with a reader , i have only used a reader & delete files with the pc  never have used the 660 for any of that as i find it's quick & easy for me on the pc instead .. on the road i use my laptop for the same & use the laptop ahrd drive  for a bit bucket & delete the cards .. then i'm ready for the next nites show
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #283 on: November 04, 2006, 03:43:28 PM »
Quote from: Jammin72 on November 04, 2006, 03:09:21 PM
I've got to really get to the bottom of this CF card thing.  I actually tried to start the show using "peak only" but I kept getting the card error, when I reset everything I was back to regular meters.

I'm going to see if a scandisc pulls up anything on the card.

Have you reformatted your card lately instead of just erasing tracks?

Shims are easy, just a tiny section of business card about the size of a small hit of acid does the trick. I also tweek my contacts every few times I use the recorder.

+T for the troubles.
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Re: Marantz PMD 660
« Reply #284 on: November 05, 2006, 02:28:17 PM »
Well after having problems with this unit I'm shipping it back tomarro. I too had the card err problem!  I think it has to do with the batteries.  My expereience with the 660 and down loading the files tell me that a card reader is the best.  Just like it was said above "less wear and tear on the unit."  Maybe just maybe I can get the unit back befor tour ends  please please please Mr. Oade 
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