and to back straker here, while yeah a bunch of people did post comments on source A v. source B, I don't think which source was which was revealed was it? so all those comments in the comp thread do not answer his question. they answer the question of the relative sounds of source A v. source B and the relative strengths of people's ability to identify gear. i find those comp thread discussions to be of relatively little value. I know who's opinion to trust when discussing the sound of gear, I don't believe I need to control group testing for discussion of the gear.