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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2005, 09:29:39 PM »
yeah, screw 'em.  i'll host it for you.
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2005, 09:50:05 PM »
In answer to corkscrew ~ it is a digital tranfer.  I'm transferring my DAT to my home stereo CD-RW deck.

I've made a short sample off the DAT . . . but I'm not sure how to "analyze" it.  I don't know what "FA" means  :-[  I've got Soundforge.

You guys are really great.  Thanks so much for trying to help me figure this out. :)
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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2005, 09:53:33 PM »
so you EAC'ed the CD's to your computer to work with in Sound Forge?

did you save those files as mp3's? check your computer.  re EAC the original CDR transfers and compare
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2005, 09:59:04 PM »
hey all,

first time poster, non taper I am however Josephine's friend that seeded the show. I don't believe anything went wrong with Sound Forge, here is a screenshot of one of the files attributes. Unless I am missing something, it seems fine to me.

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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2005, 10:00:09 PM »
Quote from: S_TL-Taper on April 11, 2005, 09:53:33 PM
so you EAC'ed the CD's to your computer to work with in Sound Forge?

did you save those files as mp3's? check your computer.  re EAC the original CDR transfers and compare

I saved them as .wav files in Soundforge before I ftp'd them.  Just double-checked to make sure I didn't mess up my settings somehow.
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« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2005, 10:03:15 PM »
Quote from: Josephine on April 11, 2005, 09:50:05 PM
In answer to corkscrew ~ it is a digital tranfer.  I'm transferring my DAT to my home stereo CD-RW deck.

I've made a short sample off the DAT . . . but I'm not sure how to "analyze" it.  I don't know what "FA" means  :-[  I've got Soundforge.

You guys are really great.  Thanks so much for trying to help me figure this out. :)

Ahh...Im a big skeptic of standalone CD-R/W units...

I had a Marantz CDR 610 - and the differnce between the source and the clone was obvious...

Caveat: that was first gen pro-sumer technology...back in 93. YMMV
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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2005, 10:04:44 PM »
hmmmmm.  i'm really at a loss.  is there a way we can get a frequency analysis of just the crowd cheering?
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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2005, 10:08:04 PM »
are you absolutely sure your recording isn't at 32khz?

an easy way to verify is to play your DAT and hold down the play button. your D100 will show what the sampling freq. is.  "F ##".

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« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2005, 10:12:03 PM »
I betting on the DAT > Standalone CD-RW unit combo as the culprit...

Do those things really make bit perfect copies or just "copies"?

It wouldn't be a suprise to find some resampling going on in the CDR unit...
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« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2005, 10:12:13 PM »
if her original recording was at 32kHz, then the 44.1 transfer would sound sped up, no?

it's possible the CDRW deck resampled down from 44.1 to 32 but then the transfer to SF would sound sped up.
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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2005, 10:18:27 PM »
Quote from: leegeddy on April 11, 2005, 10:08:04 PM
are you absolutely sure your recording isn't at 32khz?

an easy way to verify is to play your DAT and hold down the play button. your D100 will show what the sampling freq. is.  "F ##".

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:-[ :-[ "F 32"  Guess that answers that, then . . .  :'( 
Thanks so much for all the help, guys . . .  I didn't mean to run you around in circles.  :-[
I don't imagine there is a way to repair that?
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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2005, 10:20:19 PM »
unfortunately not...but if it is worth anything, I have made the same error...best thing you can do going forward, tape down those switches when stelathing...they will flip at the worst time..sometimes...

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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2005, 10:24:07 PM »
glad you figured it out, hate it when shit like that happens that seems unexplainable, but hey, thats what you have us for ;D Made that mistake a few times myself when I ran a D8
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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2005, 10:30:19 PM »
HA!

If its any consolation to the EZT folks - this at least proves that the recording was not LOSSY!!!

Just recorded at using an older digital spec...32/12 bit (I think)

PLENTY of older stuff circulating that was recorded using this technology...if you look hard enough there might even be some on EZT now!

Note - this doesnt rule out some monkeying around by your CD-RW...IMO - obviously it changed the sample rate to 44.1 in some fashion...

It may be best to get a proper digital transfer done so you can use some industrial strength upsampling!



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« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2005, 10:38:41 PM »
Quote from: corkscrew on April 11, 2005, 10:30:19 PM
If its any consolation to the EZT folks - this at least proves that the recording was not LOSSY!!!

I don't know a whole lot about frequencies but is that for sure? that this is not techincally a lossy recording?
That's the biggest issue right now, that we were told it's lossy hence the reason for it being banned.
I'd like to be positive about it and perhaps let them know this but I want to be sure.

thanks for all your help folks.
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