Topic: Tascam DV-RA1000 DVD Recorder Surprise

[VA_TAPER]

I've got 3 recordings this weekend, 2 of which are acoustic, and one pa supported.
~Friday, a large scale orchestra doing broadway hits  ( )  (pa supported, with quality mics and sbd)
~Saturday, an acoustic rachmaninoff piano and organ concerto played live to tape, with no audience. And perhaps multiple takes.
~Sunday, same performance of rach., live to audience and tape, and then a requiem choir in the second set, which I'm so totally excited about, that I damn near wet my pants!!. Dark moody scary baroque requiem choir, with organ and small orchestra... put the fear of god into you kind of stuff. All acoustic, and to high resolution.  boinnngggg!
 

I just listened to a Latin-Folk ensemble playing somewhere outside in California.
I was cruising a dark and deserted section of the southern end of the NJ Parkway early this quiet A.M.
The recording was full, accurate and cranked to help the coffee wake me up.

In the middle of one of their acoustic songs, a freight train ran through nearby the recording venue.
Talk about realism !

I sh*t my pants.   
I thought that you should know that.


So how's the A/D and pre-amps in the Tascam ?
Is it as good as a V-3 ?   

There is no pre-amp in the tascam, so you must run your own pre-amp.  The A/D converter is the same as in the V3, but offers a direct or bypass mode that allows you to feed the chip right from your pre-amp.  Depending on the quality of your preamp the Tascam offers the possibility of a better signal to the A/D than the V3 does.

peace, chris

[bkirby]

Moke,
How's the Sarge' like the sound of DSD so far? Any comments?

[Tim]

she noticed, and raised her eyebrows, but remainded stand-offish in her relationship with the beast.
She really noticed the difference in sound with sacd playback of a couple of studio discs though, (not through this unit).

actually she rather likes the broadway hits thing, so fridays gig might sell her
A little wining and dining, then a concert,.....
yeah,.. right,...
Sarge, grab the cable bag, and the green mic stand bag, we're getting there an hour and a half early,...... again.

lmao

the life of a tapers wife

[Jammin72]

FWIW After going through a few transfers and dithering situations Doug and I agreed that the Analog transfer to the Modified FR-2 for the 14/44.1 discs was really the way to go.

But that's probably since no current solution is availible for DSD->PCM direct, once a solution is found there will be no beneift going through two A/D conversions.  I want a box to decimate 1bit DSD  @ 2mhz to 24bit PCM @ 88.2.  That way the 24/88.2 can be used in DVD Video discs and can be downsampled to 44.1 for CD after dynamic range compression, EQ, whatever.

peace, chris

Whoops forgot to detail that... was in comparison to capture at 24/96 then Dithered/Resampled using Samplitude.  So I was commenting that the analog transfer directly to the Bit Depth/Sample Rate of chioce was preferable.

[Brian]

DSD> analog> PCM (via anything that dithers 24 bit AD to 16 bit) works great.

I'm listening to the finished redbook burn, and it sounds really sweet! (save for the drums being strong in the mix)
DSD analog feed->PCM-M1 48k ~then~ Tas.DA20mkII 48k dat master -> Tas700 cdr audio burner cdr master

The cdr version sounds "compressed" which gives it more gritty punch than the dsd(?), but not the purity.

just out of curiosity.....why didn't you just go DSD(analog out) > Tascam 700 ?  do you think the AD is better in the DA20mkII than the 700?

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

Interesting point two:  The dvd drive in the unit is a standard IDE drive with an ATA ribbon cable and a standard PC power supply cable, I'm going to try and format a 20gig hard drive in the unit and see if I can get many hours recording capability.

more to follow,
peace, chris

From the DV-RA1000 "Press Release" http://www.tascam.com/Press/Releases/dvra1000.html

Advanced features like a USB 2.0 connector, RS-232 serial control 

How about an external HD? External HD's are already constructed to be portable, the USB stream should be fast enough, no? 

[VA_TAPER]

I've got 3 recordings this weekend, 2 of which are acoustic, and one pa supported.
~Friday, a large scale orchestra doing broadway hits  ( )  (pa supported, with quality mics and sbd)
~Saturday, an acoustic rachmaninoff piano and organ concerto played live to tape, with no audience. And perhaps multiple takes.
~Sunday, same performance of rach., live to audience and tape, and then a requiem choir in the second set, which I'm so totally excited about, that I damn near wet my pants!!. Dark moody scary baroque requiem choir, with organ and small orchestra... put the fear of god into you kind of stuff. All acoustic, and to high resolution.  boinnngggg!
 

I just listened to a Latin-Folk ensemble playing somewhere outside in California.
I was cruising a dark and deserted section of the southern end of the NJ Parkway early this quiet A.M.
The recording was full, accurate and cranked to help the coffee wake me up.

In the middle of one of their acoustic songs, a freight train ran through nearby the recording venue.
Talk about realism !

I sh*t my pants.   
I thought that you should know that.


So how's the A/D and pre-amps in the Tascam ?
Is it as good as a V-3 ?   

There is no pre-amp in the tascam, so you must run your own pre-amp. The A/D converter is the same as in the V3, but offers a direct or bypass mode that allows you to feed the chip right from your pre-amp. Depending on the quality of your preamp the Tascam offers the possibility of a better signal to the A/D than the V3 does.

peace, chris

did you ever hear from Hamptone about the delivery time estimates for your pre?

two weeks from today =)

[VA_TAPER]

Interesting point two:  The dvd drive in the unit is a standard IDE drive with an ATA ribbon cable and a standard PC power supply cable, I'm going to try and format a 20gig hard drive in the unit and see if I can get many hours recording capability.

more to follow,
peace, chris

From the DV-RA1000 "Press Release" http://www.tascam.com/Press/Releases/dvra1000.html

Advanced features like a USB 2.0 connector, RS-232 serial control 

How about an external HD? External HD's are already constructed to be portable, the USB stream should be fast enough, no? 

the USB controller in the unit would have to be a host controller not a standard peripherial controller, hence why you can just plug in a usb drive to digital cameras, nomads, etc.  I doubt it is, but I have several USB2.0 harddrives to test it with.

BTW: incase anyone needs cheap storage Staples is running 2 regional specials - either a maxtor 200gb drive for $70.00 or a maxtor 250gb for $100- depending on your region.

peace, chris

[VA_TAPER]

glad to hear that its not some long drawn out anticipating wait, though two weeks would kill me.

You've got me considering going that route. A friend of mine suggested hamptone at the end of last season, and he had glowing reviews.

I've got a question for you in private pm.
sending,....

moke,  where are you located, some time we should meet up where ever you do your classical recordings link our DSD wordclocks together and run 4-channel DSD with your DPAs and my SP audio AKG =)  them would be some sweet unamplified multichannel tunes

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

Interesting point two:  The dvd drive in the unit is a standard IDE drive with an ATA ribbon cable and a standard PC power supply cable, I'm going to try and format a 20gig hard drive in the unit and see if I can get many hours recording capability.

more to follow,
peace, chris

From the DV-RA1000 "Press Release" http://www.tascam.com/Press/Releases/dvra1000.html

Advanced features like a USB 2.0 connector, RS-232 serial control 

How about an external HD? External HD's are already constructed to be portable, the USB stream should be fast enough, no? 

the USB controller in the unit would have to be a host controller not a standard peripherial controller, hence why you can just plug in a usb drive to digital cameras, nomads, etc.  I doubt it is, but I have several USB2.0 harddrives to test it with.

BTW: incase anyone needs cheap storage Staples is running 2 regional specials - either a maxtor 200gb drive for $70.00 or a maxtor 250gb for $100- depending on your region.

peace, chris

How do you go about figuring out if it's a host controller or a standard peripherial controller?  Just thought I'd throw it out, I don't know enough about how all that works, if it did that'd be awsome.  ::shrugs:: 

[MattH]

I'm currently adding dsd tracks to my dsd clones and am getting ready to start playing around with the parametric EQ and compression. This is a nice feature!

[macdaddy]

I'm currently adding dsd tracks to my dsd clones and am getting ready to start playing around with the parametric EQ and compression. This is a nice feature!

nicely done.

how, exactly are doing this..?

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[KingReptile]

These motha looks bad ass ...Dam how long is gonna be before I am living on the street to support this habit..I'm gonna snag one of these bad boys   

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

These motha looks bad ass ...Dam how long is gonna be before I am living on the street to support this habit..I'm gonna snag one of these bad boys   

See, that's the problem, if you're living on the street you'd have to bum power... catch 22 I guess there is always the battery/power inverter. 

I would be thoroughly impressed to see a street person with one of there in their cart. Now that would be dedication!

[MattH]

Oops, effects only work in pcm modes, not dsd.