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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2006, 03:13:33 AM »
Count me in on a set of actives.  I would be willing to help the project in any other way possible as well.

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2006, 01:45:33 PM »
That tube won't fit a 480, will it?

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2006, 02:16:12 PM »
i am taking one of chris k.'s 460's to the machinist this week to have the colletts made for nick, for his akg nbox project.
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2006, 03:03:53 PM »
i am taking one of chris k.'s 460's to the machinist this week to have the colletts made for nick, for his akg nbox project.

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2006, 04:06:19 PM »
+T to you, Nick, and Chris!  Thanks.
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2006, 10:54:55 PM »
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2006, 01:32:46 PM »
i am taking one of chris k.'s 460's to the machinist this week to have the colletts made for nick, for his akg nbox project.

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2006, 08:26:52 PM »
i assume the 460 and 480 have a different sound even though they both use the ck6x cap correct?
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2006, 08:28:49 PM »
i assume the 460 and 480 have a different sound even though they both use the ck6x cap correct?
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?

yep, the 480's are TRANSFORMERLESS, the 460s are not, 480's are a bit faster/more detailed IMO

the ck6x are the exact caps tho!
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2006, 08:35:54 PM »
i assume the 460 and 480 have a different sound even though they both use the ck6x cap correct?
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?

depends on what the resulting product is. if its a nBox type design then yes, they will sound the same because the bodies are no longer invloved. if its an active cable that goes between bodies and ck6* caps then ideally they should sound like what the bodies would sound like without the cables involved.


yep, the 480's are TRANSFORMERLESS, the 460s are not, 480's are a bit faster/more detailed IMO

the ck6x are the exact caps tho!

unless you get the 460's modded  ;D
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2006, 08:37:44 PM »
i assume the 460 and 480 have a different sound even though they both use the ck6x cap correct?
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?

depends on what the resulting product is. if its a nBox type design then yes, they will sound the same because the bodies are no longer invloved. if its an active cable that goes between bodies and ck6* caps then ideally they should sound like what the bodies would sound like without the cables involved.


yep, the 480's are TRANSFORMERLESS, the 460s are not, 480's are a bit faster/more detailed IMO

the ck6x are the exact caps tho!

unless you get the 460's modded  ;D

very true, once modded, they may even be a bit faster/more detailed than the 480's
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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2006, 08:38:25 PM »
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?

There are a few different types of active setups.

1. Cap > Active > Body
2. Cap > Active > Phantom Box (Nbox, JKLabs, etc.)
3. Cap > Active > Pre-Amp (v3, m148, etc.)

If you are using #1 then the sound would definately be different because of the different bodies.
If you are using #2 then the sound would be different because you are using some sort of external power to the caps
If you are using #3 then the sound would be different just because it would be the sound of the cap and not the body or external power box 

Good question!  +T

Oh and while the JW460's sound nice I still prefer the 480 sound   YMMV

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2006, 08:39:38 PM »
very true, once modded, they may even be a bit faster/more detailed than the 480's

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Re: The AKG Actives Project
« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2006, 08:54:51 PM »
very true, once modded, they may even be a bit faster/more detailed than the 480's

Bean put the crack pipe down and please step away.  You mind will clear up!   ;D

i still like the 480 sound a tad better myself, but the mod460s are pretty 'fast' mics ;)
now if a active set up was made then anyone using a 461 and a 481 now would have the exact sound because you would eliminate the body and just use the cap with whatever kind of box was made

is that fair to say?

There are a few different types of active setups.

1. Cap > Active > Body
2. Cap > Active > Phantom Box (Nbox, JKLabs, etc.)
3. Cap > Active > Pre-Amp (v3, m148, etc.)

If you are using #1 then the sound would definately be different because of the different bodies.
If you are using #2 then the sound would be different because you are using some sort of external power to the caps
If you are using #3 then the sound would be different just because it would be the sound of the cap and not the body or external power box 

Good question!  +T

Oh and while the JW460's sound nice I still prefer the 480 sound   YMMV

number 3 would not be possible w/ 99% of mics, they still have to have some kind of mic preamp/body, only ccm4's come to mind, unless youre running schoeps mk4/41/whatever>schoeps vms preamps, which takes the place of the bodies ala the jklabs/nbox
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