Topic: AKG goes to china

[RebelRebel]

Plain and simple...AKG rules.  And don't forget it.   

Rules what?  The cheap Chinese condenser market?   

 

[Kindguy]

Bean try out some Mod 460's sometime. You'll love them. I loved my 480's but ther was always something with the mid's I didn't like. Mod 460's fixed that. Fantastic mic IMO. You can borrow mine sometime if you want.

Jeff

[Brian]

Plain and simple...AKG rules.  And don't forget it.   

Rules what?

a hi-hat

[bluegrass_brad]

Plain and simple...AKG rules.  And don't forget it.   

Rules what?

a hi-hat

QFT.  I also really like the 450/460/480 on overheads as well.

[Brian]

Plain and simple...AKG rules.  And don't forget it.  

Rules what?

a hi-hat

QFT.  I also really like the 450/460/480 on overheads as well.

original 451's sound great as overheads......especially jazz kits, IMHO 

[sygdwm]

<slowly backs out and closes door>

i ran 210s & 463s>148>671 same show several times and thought the akg's sounded better imo. id like to hear the 200's vs 61's, though. 

[Kindguy]

<slowly backs out and closes door>

i ran 210s & 463s>148>671 same show several times and thought the akg's sounded better imo. id like to hear the 200's vs 61's, though. 

So did I. I owned my MG210 around 2 months till I sold em & bought back my 480's.

[kindms]

"China is here Mr. Burton"

[RebelRebel]

I like Gefell and Schoeps for two reasons1.) Sonics 2.) philosophy. Gefell has been making mics the same way, since the 20s, according to the Standards laid out by Georg Neumann.  Schoeps , since the 40s. With both of those companies, EVERY component is made on site, by hand, parts are hand picked and hand tested according to very stringent standards. Neither of those two care about Global Commerce, never compromise to meet a larger consumer base, and place quality and sonic integrity above all. No mass production, but made to order. Yes, this means a higher price to the end user, but IMNSVFHO it is well worth it. Combine the sonics WITH the philosophy and you have a winner, all around. I also like that when you phone one of those two companies, you dont have to be patched into another division in a different country or state. All the employees are in house. AKG is becoming a typicall "big business" model. I dont like that personally, and wont support it. Same thing with SennMan, though I do love the u87, tlm193, and Sennheiser MKH800.

I do love my 426B, and wouldnt trade it for anything, though it is in the shop getting frankensteined at the moment for broader freq. range and better transient response. was about 95% perfect.


but at the end of the day, to me they are just tools, and I buy the tools that do the job for me. I dont identfy with my mics on a personal level,  and certainly dont take offense if someone slags off on them. If it were my Mother, maybe. A piece of steel and wire..(though well crafted!)...never. Dont understand why others take it personally either ,but perhaps that isnt for me to understand nor question.

[OOK]

I like Gefell and Schoeps for two reasons1.) Sonics 2.) philosophy. Gefell has been making mics the same way, since the 20s, according to the Standards laid out by Georg Neumann.  Schoeps , since the 40s. With both of those companies, EVERY component is made on site, by hand, parts are hand picked and hand tested according to very stringent standards. Neither of those two care about Global Commerce, never compromise to meet a larger consumer base, and place quality and sonic integrity above all. No mass production, but made to order. Yes, this means a higher price to the end user, but IMNSVFHO it is well worth it. Combine the sonics WITH the philosophy and you have a winner, all around. I also like that when you phone one of those two companies, you dont have to be patched into another division in a different country or state. All the employees are in house. AKG is becoming a typicall "big business" model. I dont like that personally, and wont support it. Same thing with SennMan, though I do love the u87, tlm193, and Sennheiser MKH800.

I do love my 426B, and wouldnt trade it for anything, though it is in the shop getting frankensteined at the moment for broader freq. range and better transient response. was about 95% perfect.


but at the end of the day, to me they are just tools, and I buy the tools that do the job for me. I dont identfy with my mics on a personal level,  and certainly dont take offense if someone slags off on them. If it were my Mother, maybe. A piece of steel and wire..(though well crafted!)...never. Dont understand why others take it personally either ,but perhaps that isnt for me to understand nor question.

+T and well said......

[kgreener]

if you're looking for an American microphone company that adheres to some of the values Teddy hit upon, ableit on a smaller scale, Josephson surely comes to mind.

[RebelRebel]

Yessir! Josephson and Royer!

[Chuck]

Jeez, I hate to be a wet blanket... but...
Back in 1990, I bought a pair of Josephson C-640 microphones (transformer coupled for the lowest noise available at the time). I bought these mics based on a recommendation from Mike Grace, who was working for a Colorado Springs high end amplifier manufacturer at the time. Mike had heard that the Josephson mics were like a cheap Schoeps alternative. Of course these mics were imported from Germany from the company that was to become MBHO. Josephson was the US dealer, but was branding them under the Josphson name.

I was never happy with them. The capsules were not matched, though I was very clear with him on the phone when ordering that I wanted them to be closely matched. I sent the damn things back to him requesting that he send back matched caps. One of the switches (phantom power/ battery power) also broke soon after I go them. This of course when the Grateful Dead were ON FIRE at the time! ... and I had the time to tour and basically had to be a lowly patcher. I should have a ton of great recordings from that year, but alas, my mics were in San Jose with David Josephson. He promised quick turn-around, but kept my mics for 2 months! I actually called him to beg for them back ASAP, so I could record some of the magic I was hearing night after night from the Grateful Dead that year.

After the mics came back, they still were not matched, though I recorded many shows with them over the years. Finally, back a couple of years ago I sent them to MBHO and they were finally matched, quite closely too. I ended up selling them on eBAy to finance my AKG C-480 purchase. The AKG's I love! I had many conversations/ coorespondences with David Josephson over the years that I had those microphones and was ultimametly quite disappointed in him and his company. YMMV...

[wbrisette]

Yessir! Josephson and Royer!

You use to be able to toss Earthworks into this category, but when the investors kicked out Chris Blackmer and installed their own people, they started a bit of a slide (my opinion). Their mics are still great, but it's not the same company.

Wayne

[heath]

Royer Ribbons