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audiofile-engineering wave editor
« on: November 26, 2011, 10:06:39 PM »
just started using this program, and i figured i would start up a centralized thread since the discussion regarding this program is in a bunch of different places...

speaking of which, some threads i found useful while figuring out wave editor (and mac wav editing, in general) are here, here, here and here


thanks to the folks in the team mac thread who pointed me in the right direction. +t
« Last Edit: March 31, 2012, 11:57:18 AM by macdaddy »
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 12:49:59 AM »
+T.

Also, anyone know how to apply EQ to just one channel? This is useful for my M-S setup.
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 02:35:28 PM »
Here are some useful tutorials for using Wave Editor...

http://vimeo.com/audiofileeng/videos

http://razormaid.com/Training/


...And an Audiofile Engineering User Forum.

http://www.macosxaudio.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=30
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 11:51:26 AM »
(moved this here, so the first post isnt filled with my spew)

great program. fwiw, here is the workflow i use...

open the files i recorded as consecutive quick edits in a new document. for a matrix (assuming both sources are sync'd to the same clock), open as overlapping layers...

trim wav files (getting rid of pre-show chatter, etc):  move the smartedits (and their boundaries) around.

add fades: select area for fade > layers > add fade (repeat as needed). fwiw, i se the quadratic linear ones.

flatten all.

layers > add effect > eq (bass roll-off) > flatten all (flatten here to have the eq take effect prior to computing the next step..)

processor > normalize (-.2db)

SAVE TO... wave editor file (*.wedt). this file is used for both the 16/44 and 24/96 file sets, and can/should be deleted when the file sets are completely made. saving this file simply gives a place to start for both filesets, where all the work common to the two is complete.

---> 24/96 (my currently preferred settings included)
open *.wedt file
processor >dither (izotope mbit+: 24bit, shape: ultra, amount: high, no boxes checked)
Save to... Wav file, 24 bit


---> 16/44.1 (my currently preferred settings included)
open *.wedt file
processor > convert sample rate (izotope resampler: ultra-steep, linear phase, resample box checked)
processor >dither (izotope mbit+: 16bit, shape: ultra, amount: high, no boxes checked)
Save to... Wav file, 16bit

tracking: at some point during all this, i will have set track markers for each song; setting keystrokes for play/stop (space) and set markers (cmd+m) makes this step very easy (thx scb). export the labels to a *.welabels file to save the tracking, and to use for each fileset (16 bit, 24 bit, etc.) you make.

Open either the 16 or 24 bit dithered wav file.
load *.welabels file.
select all markers in the labels drawer >ctrl-click >save selection to... > 16bit/24bit wav ("wave") files
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 12:01:28 PM »
a couple of questions:

when matrixing two sources, once they are loaded as overlapping sources, is there a volume slider that i can use to go between layers/sources and adjust/fine tune the gain individually to get the right mix?

out of curiosity, what resample and dither settings do the rest of you use..?

finally,  i notice the advanced properties for the izotope processes don't show until you click around the window, which is tough 'cos you sometimes click/change settings before you even know what they are that way. however, they show in full the next time you open the processor window, as long as you have kept thewave editor app open. i think i might have to start a request with the help desk for this one...

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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 11:59:01 AM »
Say, I've noticed since updating to version 1.5.6 that whenever I open a file created on earlier version that the audio fades and plug-ins do not load anymore.  Has anyone else noticed this?

I'm wondering if its a bug with version 1.5.6 that might hopefully get fixed with the next version or if I'll have to back to all the old files an re-create all their fades and plug-ins all over again which would be a pita.
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 10:05:46 PM »
Anybody considering Wave Editor, now is a good time to grab it ON SALE at a savings of $10 off the normal price. 

Perhaps the discount is an indication that version 2 will be arriving soon.
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 10:51:21 PM »
Anybody considering Wave Editor, now is a good time to grab it ON SALE at a savings of $10 off the normal price. 

Perhaps the discount is an indication that version 2 will be arriving soon.

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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2012, 03:47:08 PM »
is there an easy way to copy one channel and paste it to the other channel..?

many thanks (in advance).
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 12:24:16 AM »
can't you just select the 1 channel, copy, select the other and paste?

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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2012, 07:56:11 AM »
can't you just select the 1 channel, copy, select the other and paste?

Yes you can. I've done this many time with mono board feeds.

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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 07:42:05 PM »
new version (1.5.7) out (popped up for me yesterday)...

and it fixes the advanced options issues i was having in the processor window  ;D
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 10:54:56 PM »
I wonder if it'll fix the issue of v1.5.6 not recognizing fades from the previous versions.  Have to update and give it a try tomorrow and will report back with results. 

Version 2 is in Beta now, don't know how long before it'll be released or when we'll know the new features being integrated with it.  The beta list for it indicates a Lion or Mountain Lion OS requirement so it doesn't look like version 2 will run under Snow Leopard.

Update v1.5.7 still does not recognize fades from prior versions.  Gives an error message of:  "An Error Occurred - Applying the settings to the global scope of Fade (x) failed because the Audio Unit was given an invalid property value."
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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 11:57:03 PM »
what is the difference between normalizing to a maximum (-.2 db) and changing gain (peak + x = -.2 db)..?

the reason i ask is that i stumbled upon the analyzer today (doh!), and its max number was a percentage, which is not what i expected. i had assumed that "maximum" in the normalizer meant peak (since the other option is rms), but this analyzer figure has me worried that normalizing to a max of -.2db is not simply raising the gain to the specified peak.

so i figure changing gain to move the peak to -.2 db should make the change i want to make (raising the gain without changing dynamics)...

i am wondering if there is any difference between the two methods. i looked at the manual, but saw no explanation about the rms and maximum normalizer options.

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Re: audiofile-engineering wave editor
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2012, 12:26:46 PM »
what is the difference between normalizing to a maximum (-.2 db) and changing gain (peak + x = -.2 db)..?

the reason i ask is that i stumbled upon the analyzer today (doh!), and its max number was a percentage, which is not what i expected. i had assumed that "maximum" in the normalizer meant peak (since the other option is rms), but this analyzer figure has me worried that normalizing to a max of -.2db is not simply raising the gain to the specified peak.

so i figure changing gain to move the peak to -.2 db should make the change i want to make (raising the gain without changing dynamics)...

i am wondering if there is any difference between the two methods. i looked at the manual, but saw no explanation about the rms and maximum normalizer options.

thanks.

I never normalize, have always adjusted the gain from the "Smart Edit List" which I have set to display automatically upon opening via my default template.
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