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iZotope Rx 7
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:34:37 AM »

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 02:12:24 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1540024830/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

A strange way to announce a new product, ya think?

I don't think this isn't the product, it's a how-to book.  The author probably just threatened to violate his NDA
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 07:30:55 PM »
Obviously it's just a book.  But unlike, say, announcing a book for January, 2019 on "How to Pilot Your Tesla Mars Rover with Windows 11.0," it's unlikely to be a joke (if it is, it's got to be the most esoteric joke ever).  So it does imply that Rx7 will be out by year-end and the feature set is already fixed enough to give a very fast writer (or maybe just a very sloppy one) time to produce copy.  So far as I know, there's no book on Rx1-6 that you could just update, either.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 04:59:15 PM »
Yeah I thought that was funny.  I'm seeing there's discounts through the end of the month, I wonder when the next version drops? 
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 10:08:01 AM »
Okay, now I'm getting really spooked.  Both ricola and voltronic in this thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=186981.0 towards the end claim to be using Rx7.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 06:07:53 PM »
Ghosts......

So I upgraded from 5 to 6 yesterday, and the tools I've used definitely work better with less fuss than before, so totally worth it.  I was working on a studio recording with an acoustic guitarist who had tons of random noise, squeaky strap, managed to tap his foot on the edge of a music stand, etc.  Painted all that stuff right out like it never happened, can't hear any music damage.  5 would have taken a lot more do/undo/futz/do/undo cycles and not worked as well. 
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2018, 06:54:40 PM »
Okay, now I'm getting really spooked.  Both ricola and voltronic in this thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=186981.0 towards the end claim to be using Rx7.

???

That's because I have perfected time travel.  Man, wait until you guys get a load of the new machine learning algorithms!

Seriously, I was mixed up with my Ozone 7.  In reality, I have RX6.  I'll edit my posts in that thread.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2018, 09:54:01 AM »
Okay, got a teaser email from iZotope today with subject: RX 7: Welcome to the New Frontier

It was blank, but their website offers, if you buy Rx6 today, a free upgrade to Rx7 when it is released LATER THIS MONTH.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2018, 08:40:25 AM »
Of course....
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2018, 02:24:34 PM »
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2018, 11:51:32 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with the Rx 7? Are those features they promote usable for enhancing a stereo music recording, or is it marketing mumbo jumbo (I sure hope it's not) ?
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2018, 12:25:38 PM »
Definitely a cool program. I wouldn't say it's a must have for tapers, but I don't think I've had the opportunity to use everything.

I need to find some old masters where I can try the De-wind and De-rustle plugins.

For RX7 the Music Re-balance tool is freaking amazing. No use for it for us, but it's fun to play with.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2018, 05:56:43 PM »
Definitely a cool program. I wouldn't say it's a must have for tapers, but I don't think I've had the opportunity to use everything.

I need to find some old masters where I can try the De-wind and De-rustle plugins.

For RX7 the Music Re-balance tool is freaking amazing. No use for it for us, but it's fun to play with.

I want to try the demo and apply Music Rebalance to some commercial recordings I have where the vocal is WAY too loud in the mix. 
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 11:30:07 PM »
The recordings I work with are simple 2 channel stereo concert recordings from either AT933 cards or hyper caps or audio reality binaurals.

Until recently, I’ve been using Audition 3.0

A few months ago I bought Izotope RX 7 standard as an adjunct. I’m still a neophyte as far as using all the capabilities of both Audition and Izotope – but – here’s what I’m finding about RX 7.

The promo videos constantly highlight music rebalance and music repair assistant features.
Honestly, for the type of recordings I have, these haven’t been as helpful as of yet.

What I HAVE found helpful are:

Clip Gain – although available pretty closely in Audacity, it’s been very easy to use to boost artist banter in between songs.

De –Click – probably the most outrageous module I’ve ever used to eliminate or drastically reduce clapping from people sitting close by. Select output clicks only and slide the choices up and down til you only hear the claps. Deselect output clicks only and render and the claps are almost totally gone or diminished so much that if you listen in headphones, they no longer bother you.

De Reverb – A subtle touch is required here, but for my recordings that had a bit of echo off the walls of the venue, this has helped to bring the audio of the instruments and vocals a bit more up front.

Spectral Repair – I’ve been learning to rely on the spectrogram views. For me, this is proving to be extremely helpful to reduce or eliminate those loud whistles that some audience folks insist on doing at various times. While both Audition and Audacity give good spectrogram views, RX 7 allows you to vary colors and level views so you can really see and highlight the offending noises. Then you can attenuate or replace from adjacent area. For me – great because I like to listen back to my recordings in headphones.

Spectral De Noise – I’ve only used this once so far. In one of my concert recordings, the artist wandered off stage and played his electric guitar off amp and sang without any amplification. The recording was extremely quiet and had hiss in the background. I was able to highlight the small bit of hiss/silence and get rid of it without (to me) any noticeable change in the audio I wanted to hear.

OK – so that’s what I’ve found really helpful in RX 7 standard.

On the negative side, the Equalizer leaves a lot to be desired. You get to use the EQ with some really nice features but to see your waveform, you need to open a separate window.

In RX 7 standard, there are no compressors or limiters included. RX 7 installs in both 32 and 64 bit. I’ve been choosing to use the 64 bit version. In 32 bit, I could include all the Audition VST plugins but they are all 32 bit. So instead, I installed the Tokyo Rose Koltenikov 64 bit compressor as well as the Loud Max 64 bit limiter.

That leaves the poor EQ choice.

I ended up buying the Ozone 8 elements plugin. This allowed me to see changes in the waveform in the same window as the equalizer. In addition, you can control very easily the audio you balance and hear in both channels equally. I can’t explain this easily – watch a video or download a demo to see what I’m talking about.

All this being said – I’m finding that I can both screw up or improve my recordings based on how much fiddling I do.

Again, keep in mind this review is what I’ve found helpful for 2 channel concert recordings that I’m trying to enhance or fix. There are other features that apply to multi-channel recordings that don’t apply to my usage.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2019, 09:35:21 AM »
For RX7 the Music Re-balance tool is freaking amazing. No use for it for us, but it's fun to play with.

Since I've had it, I've pulled many a buried vocal up out of an audience recording with great success, pulled bass up to match kick drum, bass down to match rest of band, drums down to match rest of band.  On the right sort of source, you can turn the bass player OFF like there isn't one at all, without it touching the kick drum.   Total lifesaver with stealth recordings, poor rooms, poor PA, poor soundguy. 
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2019, 01:16:19 PM »
I picked up the elements package, and I have tried the de-clip function on some of my first digital recordings from my early taping days back in '93. Back then I did not even have internet (I don't know if DATheads was even started back then), so I didn't know how to do stuff. I used a crappy Sony microphone with my Denon DTR-80P, and unfortunately I used the high setting for the mic preamp on the recorder. So those recordings are all brickwalled like crazy...

So, long story short, these recordings are of course never going to sound great, but the de-clip function works great to recreate the dynamics of the recordings. I never though I would ever listen to them again, but now they sound pretty decent considering my equipment.

I am pretty amazed that it is possible to do this after 25 years... If you do do have brickwalled recordings, I would definitely recommend trying it  ;D
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2019, 11:10:28 AM »
Would it be possible for anyone to run declip for me on a one file show? I've done it on my machine but it freezes up when I go to render so it's basically useless. Thanks.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2019, 11:23:32 AM »
Would it be possible for anyone to run declip for me on a one file show? I've done it on my machine but it freezes up when I go to render so it's basically useless. Thanks.

pm me a dropbox (or similar) link and I'll get to it later today.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2019, 08:40:07 PM »
Would it be possible for anyone to run declip for me on a one file show? I've done it on my machine but it freezes up when I go to render so it's basically useless. Thanks.

pm me a dropbox (or similar) link and I'll get to it later today.

Thanks Gordon. I left the program running at lunch today and at some point it actually rendered the file  ::)
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2019, 07:03:21 PM »
Grabbed RX7 std today for $284, finally taking the plunge.

Noob question: do you run it stand alone, or as a plug in for a DAW,

Figure it wouldn't place nice in Audacity, but mayhaps Reaper.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2019, 01:51:54 AM »
I have rx 7 elements and the plugins all run nicely in Reaper. They do *technically* work in Audacity, but without real time capability they are far from fully functional.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2019, 01:10:22 PM »
Grabbed RX7 std today for $284, finally taking the plunge.

Noob question: do you run it stand alone, or as a plug in for a DAW,

TIA

I believe you can do either but I run it standalone. I've added some plugins from other places.

It installs both 32 and 64 bit versions.

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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2019, 01:27:42 PM »
I use wavelab and for some things (declick) the VST plugins work great.  There are many things there aren't plugins for like de-wind, music re balance, spectral repair partials and noise etc.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2019, 11:39:01 PM »
I run it as a standalone
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2019, 09:23:54 PM »
So the book, Audio Restoration With iZotope Rx7, which was announced last June before the update to Rx7 was announced by iZotope (the update came in September) never came out as promised in January.  It is now listed for publication in April 2020.   >:(

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2019, 12:34:10 PM »
Grabbed RX7 std today for $284, finally taking the plunge.

Noob question: do you run it stand alone, or as a plug in for a DAW,

Figure it wouldn't place nice in Audacity, but mayhaps Reaper.

TIA

You should try to use Connect if your DAW supports it as it is a badass feature and pop back and forth between RX and the DAW.  With that said, I tend to use it as a stand alone and make fixes before I put anything through a post in Wavelab 9
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2019, 12:55:33 PM »

You should try to use Connect if your DAW supports it as it is a badass feature and pop back and forth between RX and the DAW.  With that said, I tend to use it as a stand alone and make fixes before I put anything through a post in Wavelab 9

If only... Audacity does not support connect. So thinking rx7 first for clapping/screaming cleanup, normalizing, then into Audacity for the rest.

Thanks all. Played around w spectral repair yesterday and removed a yell from on top of Cortez the Killer. Was really cool.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2019, 01:24:51 PM »

You should try to use Connect if your DAW supports it as it is a badass feature and pop back and forth between RX and the DAW.  With that said, I tend to use it as a stand alone and make fixes before I put anything through a post in Wavelab 9

If only... Audacity does not support connect. So thinking rx7 first for clapping/screaming cleanup, normalizing, then into Audacity for the rest.

Thanks all. Played around w spectral repair yesterday and removed a yell from on top of Cortez the Killer. Was really cool.

Wait until you use the lasso tool.  You can pull out whistles and hardly affect anything else
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2019, 09:32:45 PM »
Lasso, magic wand, vinyl de-click awesome, especially on quiet acoustic with rowdy crowd.

How do folks like rx7's normalizing and dithering compared to Audacity?
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2019, 06:13:54 PM »
When I used '7 declip last it was so far gone that it couldn't recover. Perhaps I've not set it up correctly. The overs seemed to be low end related and the post processing sounded... not good.

If anyone with a lot of experience in this would care to divulge settings, perhaps I can make it happen yet.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2019, 08:08:38 PM »
When I used '7 declip last it was so far gone that it couldn't recover. Perhaps I've not set it up correctly. The overs seemed to be low end related and the post processing sounded... not good.

If anyone with a lot of experience in this would care to divulge settings, perhaps I can make it happen yet.

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Maybe try this?

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2019, 08:54:50 PM »
Thanks, but that elementary example did not come close to my mess. In hind sight I think I was bricking the A/D as opposed to overloading the mics. I fear that's an entirely different animal.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2019, 01:04:34 PM »
iZotope rx users, anyone care to take a stab at these samples?  Show last week there was some slight distortion/saturation in the vocals from the PA.  Much more noticeable on the SBD but on the AUD as well.  AUD is way to chatty to use alone!  I've gotten pretty good at iZotope but no luck with this one.  I've tried de-clip, de-crackle and de-rusle....... 

SBD sample first.  The first vocals (Well my baby) are probably the worst of the whole show but not sure.

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AUD sample of the same spot

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2019, 01:33:17 PM »
Listened to the first sample, and I can't see salvaging it (I am an experienced pro user). The distortion is baked in and can't be removed. A good analogy would be trying to clean up a guitar signal that was deliberately distorted through a drive pedal.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2019, 03:15:53 PM »
Kind of figured as my normal tricks did nothing. 
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2019, 08:41:10 PM »
Did anyone try the re-balance?
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2019, 05:17:37 AM »
I used the stereo width function in RX 5 a lot but I can't find it in RX 7 Advanced. Did they remove it?

In RX 5 it was found under Channel Ops > Increase Stereo Width.

I know it's not the best tool around but it was easy to use and I only used it slightly when I needed a recording to breath a little more. Not to actually make it wider.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2019, 12:34:47 PM »
It is still there...
Levels > Mixing > Increase Stereo Width

I used the stereo width function in RX 5 a lot but I can't find it in RX 7 Advanced. Did they remove it?

In RX 5 it was found under Channel Ops > Increase Stereo Width.

I know it's not the best tool around but it was easy to use and I only used it slightly when I needed a recording to breath a little more. Not to actually make it wider.

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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2019, 12:55:37 PM »
Perfect! Thank you.

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It is still there...
Levels > Mixing > Increase Stereo Width

I used the stereo width function in RX 5 a lot but I can't find it in RX 7 Advanced. Did they remove it?

In RX 5 it was found under Channel Ops > Increase Stereo Width.

I know it's not the best tool around but it was easy to use and I only used it slightly when I needed a recording to breath a little more. Not to actually make it wider.
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2019, 07:09:12 PM »
You could use the Ozone Imager plug in for stereo field manipulation. It is still free. It will plug into RX7 32bit but not 64bit.  Works for me.  I have it working in both RX and Adobe Audition 3.0
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Re: iZotope Rx 7
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2019, 01:47:15 AM »
You could use the Ozone Imager plug in for stereo field manipulation. It is still free. It will plug into RX7 32bit but not 64bit.  Works for me.  I have it working in both RX and Adobe Audition 3.0

I will definately check that out. Thank you!
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