Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (part V)

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Given the drift factor, it wouldn't save that much work to have the starts lined up.

If only it would work, and be that simple!  Syncing the start of the tracks is easy.  If only making a matrix was that easy.  It is the continuous drift that is the PIA.  I find a matrix quickly gets muddy when the clocks and phasing drift. The cool hack would be linking the clocks.  Someday a handheld mfg might provide such a feature - the ability to clock-sync an arbitrary number of recorders to make multi-tracks.

I've considered making an automated matrix tool, but I'm not sure that enough people would pay for it to make it worthwhile.

[beatkilla]

I havent had any drift issues between the 4  m10s i have.Even had a 4 hour show with no drift between them.If i use minidisc with the m10 than theres drift.

[F.O.Bean]

I havent had any drift issues between the 4  m10s i have.Even had a 4 hour show with no drift between them.If i use minidisc with the m10 than theres drift.

Thats good news, because I have [2] M10's But I just scored a DR2D for cheap so I never have to worry about drift ever again

[edtyre]

Thats good news, because I have [2] M10's But I just scored a DR2D for cheap so I never have to worry about drift ever again

According to Tascam's site you can only record one stereo file PLUS the built in mics.
http://tascam.com/product/dr-2d/overview/
"Line mode records also two stereo files – the built-in mics plus the line input. This is perfect for live recording: record the board mix to the line input as well as the built-in mics for the sound of the room. The two stereo files allow you to treat and mix these together after the event in your DAW software."

[darby]

Thats good news, because I have [2] M10's But I just scored a DR2D for cheap so I never have to worry about drift ever again

According to Tascam's site you can only record one stereo file PLUS the built in mics.
http://tascam.com/product/dr-2d/overview/
"Line mode records also two stereo files – the built-in mics plus the line input. This is perfect for live recording: record the board mix to the line input as well as the built-in mics for the sound of the room. The two stereo files allow you to treat and mix these together after the event in your DAW software."

that is incorrect    you can feed it 2 line sources, you just have to keep the level down on the Mic In around 65/100

I havent had any drift issues between the 4  m10s i have.Even had a 4 hour show with no drift between them.If i use minidisc with the m10 than theres drift.

when I owned 2 M10s I tried 2 or 3 times and had horrible drift, I had less drift between my M10 and my HD-P2
that's why I went with a DR-2d after selling the DR-680

[beatkilla]

No drift issues for me if set to same bit depth and sample rate.If set to different than theres the problem.I also used to run several Sony Rh1 minidisc recorders and there was never a drift issue for runs up to 3 or 4 hours.

[darby]

No drift issues for me if set to same bit depth and sample rate.If set to different than theres the problem.I also used to run several Sony Rh1 minidisc recorders and there was never a drift issue for runs up to 3 or 4 hours.

I always record @ 24/48 and had horrible drift with 2 M10s... glad you didn't have problems

[rastasean]

I always record @ 24/48 and had horrible drift with 2 M10s... glad you didn't have problems

How did you link the two together?

[beatkilla]

 Thats weird that only i am not having drift issues.Were you using alkaline batteries or rechargeables?

[F.O.Bean]

Thats crazy that some folks are getting drift and some arent? Oh well, for $125.00, a Tascam DR2D is the best route to go

[darby]

I always record @ 24/48 and had horrible drift with 2 M10s... glad you didn't have problems

How did you link the two together?

Thats weird that only i am not having drift issues.Were you using alkaline batteries or rechargeables?

rechargables

Thats crazy that some folks are getting drift and some arent? Oh well, for $125.00, a Tascam DR2D is the best route to go

very simple and compact way to go

[morst]

I havent had any drift issues between the 4  m10s i have.Even had a 4 hour show with no drift between them.If i use minidisc with the m10 than theres drift.

That's amazing! Do they have serial numbers in close proximity? Did you buy them at the same time? I've never had any two machines of any kind that sync'd like that! I can imagine that if the controller clock chips were from the exact same lot, that it's possible?!

when I owned 2 M10s I tried 2 or 3 times and had horrible drift, I had less drift between my M10 and my HD-P2

Mine have substantial drift, but it's pretty damn consistent, I think...

Thats crazy that some folks are getting drift and some arent?

I think it's crazy that some aren't!!! 

[willndmb]

i never tried to synch my m10 with anything but in the past i have done video with a fr2le, jb3, other cams
and always had mixed results, my fr2le would stay with my cam for about 1:15 h/m
my 2 cams would be the furtherst off, they would only match for about 3 mins

[dunebug81]

I have not been on the forums in forever but Ive got this recorder and have used it a half a dozen times and think its great.  I loved my Minidisc but this is just as good and I don't have to buy discs any more!

I'm running DPA4061 > MMA6000 > (line-in) M10.  Mostly doing rock shows in clubs/arenas.  I saw some talk about having the input at 4 or 5 and having the pre do the rest.  I've been running the recorder at 10 and the pre +0 to +5db (2 clicks) depending on how loud the show is.  Thus far Ive been quite happy with the results.  I never thought to have the pre kick out +10db and run the recorder at a lower level.

Thoughts?

[Cheesecadet]

Get as much gain from the pre as possible then adjust the M10.  My recordings sound far better that way.