Topic: CF based small recorders

[j5brock]

I think I have decided on the R9.. but given how many CF cards I have floating around - other than the MT - are there any CF based similar sized recorders.. I would prefer to run 24/48 - and will be running line in from a MP2.. so a decent A/D is a must..

Jeff

[JasonSobel]

the Sonosax MiniR82 has a CF slot, and it isn't too much bigger than the MT

[Nick's Picks]

and you could likely trade a kidney for one

[j5brock]

I'm thinking something compareable to the MT.. not the 744t.. would love to have the MiniR82 as a backup.. but it would cost me double - as my wife gets to match my hobby dollars - dollar for dollar

[H₂O]

Yeah at least the lowered the price of the Minir82 down to $4700 from around $6000

[sunjan]

I think I have decided on the R9.. but given how many CF cards I have floating around - other than the MT - are there any CF based similar sized recorders.. I would prefer to run 24/48 - and will be running line in from a MP2.. so a decent A/D is a must..

If nobody comes up with a solution, the CF modded Irivers are starting to take off:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.msg1336490.html#msg1336490
Granted, this will only give you 16/44.1, but the H1xx is small and reliable.

(You could even CF mod a JB3 or the legacy JB1 for a poor man's rig, but I guess you're past that stage).

[Nick's Picks]

that is soooooo bad-ass !
can't wait to do it to mine.

[Digital Quality]

I was just daydreaming about a single board computer solution to this problem. Something like there here http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7800 Granted, I do a lot of daydreaming but it seems pretty workable. The power seems a little high on this particular model, probably due to all those snazzy peripherals but I just started looking at these this morning.

You could have a box that boots up and starts recording. It could probably be done on less MHz if it was totally dedicated to recording and nothing else. I was just poking around about how to do the S/PDIF to IO interface 15 minutes ago. I'm sorta lost in that department though..

[flintstone]

I think you should not base your purchase on the type of memory card used.    I know you want to take advantage of the Compactflash cards you already own, but SD and SDHC memory is so cheap that it really doesn't add much to the cost.   A standard 4GB SDHC card costs less than $20. 

Flintstone

[Jamos]

If you decide on an R-09 and have some compact flash lying around unused...I could use some more cards to use with your old 702.
 

 Currently I only have one 4GB card, and am looking for some more.

[sunjan]

I think you should not base your purchase on the type of memory card used.    I know you want to take advantage of the Compactflash cards you already own, but SD and SDHC memory is so cheap that it really doesn't add much to the cost.   A standard 4GB SDHC card costs less than $20. 

QFT.

There is also the PDAudio system for PDAs with CF slots, but it's looking outdated and overpriced in my eyes:
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php
I could be missing the point, maybe there are other advantages to it?!

[Nick's Picks]

IMO anything with an "operating system" should be avoided in a recorder.
especially a windows based one.

my $.02

[JasonSobel]

IMO anything with an "operating system" should be avoided in a recorder.
especially a windows based one.

my $.02

everything has an "operating system" these days.  All of the firmware that runs on our recorders are "operating systems".  In fact, the HD-P2 firmware is based on Windows CE, and it is rock solid.  (I only know that it is based on Windows CE because they mention it in the notes of the latest firmware update.)

That said, there are definite advantages to operating systems (firmware) that has been written specifically for a certain function on a certain piece of hardware.

[Nick's Picks]

you know what I mean Jason.  using something that is not a recorder, for recording = trouble.

[Digital Quality]

I think you should not base your purchase on the type of memory card used.    I know you want to take advantage of the Compactflash cards you already own, but SD and SDHC memory is so cheap that it really doesn't add much to the cost.   A standard 4GB SDHC card costs less than $20. 

QFT.

There is also the PDAudio system for PDAs with CF slots, but it's looking outdated and overpriced in my eyes:
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php
I could be missing the point, maybe there are other advantages to it?!

I've been using the PDA setup for almost 3 years (edit - with Dell Axim x50v), it's been super nice. I just upgraded my OS to WM6 so I could take advantage of those $30 8GB SDHC cards on Amazon, picked up a new double capacity battery for $12 while I was there too.

Everything has an OS, some are nicer than others and a PPC is probably a little over the top sure but it's worked out really good. Now I'm more worried about the mini jack on the adapter card than anything. It will eventually wear out and then I'll have to buy a new card.

That's why I'm motivated on this homebrew recorder. I've been studying up on this board computer http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7800 and I think it will really work with an S/PDIF receiver front end like the Cirrus or Ti chips. No more mini plugs to wear or goofy UI's, and I'm in charge of the form factor and content.. Now I'm searching for a good PC/104 flash addon card that supports at least up to 8GB cards. Either that or recoding the FPGA onboard to accept SD sockets - if I can get the right SDHC drivers for Debian.

[surf1div1]

While I've been getting great results with my PDA set-up, for stealth, it isn't nearly as compact as the newer hard disc recorders that have been stable for the last year, and are MUCH less expensive- trying to purchase a PDA (if you don't already have one) and a ADC (again, if you don't already have one) to input into the CF input (Core Sound) which anyone who's reading this post can see what their reputation is and STILL wan'ts to go that route - then hey, then email me off list and I'll sell you my whole rig (H5555 Ipaq, Core Sound MIC 2496 ADC, Core Sound PD-Audio Card) and throw in a bunch of CF cards...if you still go that route, but candidly, anyone that has the money to purchase that set-up is MUCH better off going with these much smaller, stealthier rigs that cost 1/2 of a Core Sounds PDA setup without the head ache of trying to get Core Sound to stand behind it to boot.

I think you should not base your purchase on the type of memory card used.    I know you want to take advantage of the Compactflash cards you already own, but SD and SDHC memory is so cheap that it really doesn't add much to the cost.   A standard 4GB SDHC card costs less than $20. 

QFT.

There is also the PDAudio system for PDAs with CF slots, but it's looking outdated and overpriced in my eyes:
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php
I could be missing the point, maybe there are other advantages to it?!

I've been using the PDA setup for almost 3 years (edit - with Dell Axim x50v), it's been super nice. I just upgraded my OS to WM6 so I could take advantage of those $30 8GB SDHC cards on Amazon, picked up a new double capacity battery for $12 while I was there too.

Everything has an OS, some are nicer than others and a PPC is probably a little over the top sure but it's worked out really good. Now I'm more worried about the mini jack on the adapter card than anything. It will eventually wear out and then I'll have to buy a new card.

That's why I'm motivated on this homebrew recorder. I've been studying up on this board computer http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7800 and I think it will really work with an S/PDIF receiver front end like the Cirrus or Ti chips. No more mini plugs to wear or goofy UI's, and I'm in charge of the form factor and content.. Now I'm searching for a good PC/104 flash addon card that supports at least up to 8GB cards. Either that or recoding the FPGA onboard to accept SD sockets - if I can get the right SDHC drivers for Debian.

[illconditioned]

I think you should not base your purchase on the type of memory card used.    I know you want to take advantage of the Compactflash cards you already own, but SD and SDHC memory is so cheap that it really doesn't add much to the cost.   A standard 4GB SDHC card costs less than $20. 

QFT.

There is also the PDAudio system for PDAs with CF slots, but it's looking outdated and overpriced in my eyes:
http://www.core-sound.com/pdaudio_system/1.php
I could be missing the point, maybe there are other advantages to it?!

I've been using the PDA setup for almost 3 years (edit - with Dell Axim x50v), it's been super nice. I just upgraded my OS to WM6 so I could take advantage of those $30 8GB SDHC cards on Amazon, picked up a new double capacity battery for $12 while I was there too.

Everything has an OS, some are nicer than others and a PPC is probably a little over the top sure but it's worked out really good. Now I'm more worried about the mini jack on the adapter card than anything. It will eventually wear out and then I'll have to buy a new card.

That's why I'm motivated on this homebrew recorder. I've been studying up on this board computer http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7800 and I think it will really work with an S/PDIF receiver front end like the Cirrus or Ti chips. No more mini plugs to wear or goofy UI's, and I'm in charge of the form factor and content.. Now I'm searching for a good PC/104 flash addon card that supports at least up to 8GB cards. Either that or recoding the FPGA onboard to accept SD sockets - if I can get the right SDHC drivers for Debian.

Wow.  If you're so inclinded, I think all we need is a box that will reliably capture SPDIF (coax preferably) and write to SD cards.  It would be even better if it could capture two SPDIF streams and write four tracks to SD cards.  Great for matrices or for ambisonic recording.  There are tons of options that produce SPDIF streams.

  Richard

[neutrino]

I think I have decided on the R9.. but given how many CF cards I have floating around - other than the MT - are there any CF based similar sized recorders.. I would prefer to run 24/48 - and will be running line in from a MP2.. so a decent A/D is a must..

Jeff

Sounds like what your looking for is an Edirol R1. Someone here is selling one with an Oade mod upgrade. The unit runs on two AA batteries, records up to 24/48 on to compact flash. Check it out!