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Title: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: keekade on April 10, 2008, 11:29:30 PM
I've just recorded my first couple of shows with my Edirol R09.  Great machine but while I wait for my external mics, I have used the internal mics.  The recordings are good but a bit bassy (which the shows were ).  Is there a setting on the R09 where I can reduce the bass.  I had the low cut off and the AGC off as well.  My levels were around 13-15 (recordings were in a cabaret and a bar).

Thanks
Keekade
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: evilchris on April 11, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
Turn on the low-cut filter.  :P
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: keekade on April 11, 2008, 01:19:49 AM
Will try.  Many thanks!
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: powermonkey on April 11, 2008, 08:07:27 AM
I'd just live with the bass as is, and then reduce it a little in post. I've read people here say many times that you can always take bass out of a recording, but it's a royal pain trying to put bass back in to a thin recording.
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Dede2002 on April 11, 2008, 10:10:06 AM
I've just recorded my first couple of shows with my Edirol R09.  Great machine but while I wait for my external mics, I have used the internal mics.  The recordings are good but a bit bassy (which the shows were ).  Is there a setting on the R09 where I can reduce the bass.  I had the low cut off and the AGC off as well.  My levels were around 13-15 (recordings were in a cabaret and a bar).

Thanks
Keekade

Please, don't use the Low-Cut. Ever. Get rid of the bass on post. R-09's Low-Cut feature is not intended for live music. Trust me. I did that once. You'll end up with a horrible, thin sounding recording. ;)
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Jeremy Lykins on April 11, 2008, 01:57:26 PM
How do you get rid of bass in post? 
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Dede2002 on April 11, 2008, 02:15:58 PM
How do you get rid of bass in post? 

You need a proper editing software: Sound Studio, Audacity, Soundforge and many others. That kind of software has a feature called HPF (high pass filter). You can decide the amount of bass you want to filter. It's not really hard. ;)
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Jeremy Lykins on April 11, 2008, 03:24:45 PM
Thanks. :)  I'm using Audacity for normalizing and fades, and I'm amazed at how easy it is to use.  I haven't explored any of its other features yet, but I'm sure that they're just as easy.
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Dede2002 on April 11, 2008, 03:29:17 PM
Thanks. :)  I'm using Audacity for normalizing and fades, and I'm amazed at how easy it is to use.  I haven't explored any of its other features yet, but I'm sure that they're just as easy.

If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help ( if I could, I'm no expert) ;)
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: keekade on April 11, 2008, 06:45:53 PM
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: powermonkey on April 11, 2008, 08:05:49 PM
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?

Church Audio mics and preamps work very nicely with the R09. Definitely worth checking out. I've had a pair of his CA-11s for just about a year now, and I've had some very nice results with them.
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: Dede2002 on April 11, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?

I've heard amazing things about the Church gear (and amazing recordings). ;)

My friend Arni has a great sounding recording with his SP CMC-8. Very good mics.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,101539.0.html

You can also try Microphone Madness cards (HLSC-1 Sennheiser MKE 40) or omnis (HLSO-Micro Sennheiser MKE 2).
Last night I taped for the first time with Senn MKE 2 >bb>R09 ( the great Larry Coryell). I'm amazed.
Price: $ 250/pair.
Good luck and have fun  ;)
Title: Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
Post by: keekade on April 11, 2008, 09:41:51 PM
Many thanks for the information!!