Taperssection.com

Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Nick's Picks on August 12, 2008, 01:37:21 PM

Title: Earthworks...
Post by: Nick's Picks on August 12, 2008, 01:37:21 PM
never been a fan until this weekend.  I used Joe's hypers and his SR77 cards were flown for everything as well.
the combo of those hypers>m148 is awesome!!

I think i'm convinced that EW mics running into a warmer/punchier colored preamp is a good thing.
any transformer based pre...., or I bet a MME would sound great.  As soon as I get a patch from Joe, i'll seed my RRE recording from upnorth and you can hear for yourself.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: run_run_run on August 12, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
I likes em 2. We ran the cards into my digi UA-5 for some side stage acts, will up some.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: scb on August 12, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
i've said it for years.  earthworks up front can sound absolutely awesome. 

and yes, they like transformers
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: setboy on August 12, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
I have always like EW's ;D Good mics
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: beanstalk on August 15, 2008, 09:06:03 AM
I love earthworks.. I'd love a omni's set.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: grider on August 15, 2008, 10:31:01 AM
I see singles in use a lot by soundboard engineers at shows, for some reason
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: cleantone on August 15, 2008, 10:51:51 AM
Quote
I see singles in use a lot by soundboard engineers at shows, for some reason

RTA, measurement mic.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: SmokinJoe on August 15, 2008, 12:09:13 PM
Earthworks are sold as being the most "accurate" mics available, but they are designed to be used 6" from the source, with the proximity effect taken into consideration.  When you move away to a distance of more than a few feet, you end up with a significant bass rolloff (down 3db@150hz, with 12dB/decade).  The result, in my opinion, is a nice clean crisp sound, but depending on the situation, it can be thin in the bottom end.  The Hypers seem to have more rolloff than the cards, and I guess that's not surprising.  If you love "booty bass" then these aren't your mics, but I like what I get, not hyped, just "what you hear is what you get".

I've had the cards for about 5 months, and the hypers for about 1 month, so I'm still experimenting, and still forming opinions.  At the moment I like the SR77 cards into the V3, but for the Z30XL hypers the Warm/Vintage mod channels on my R4 seem like my best option, and Nick's M148 is really sweet.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: scb on August 18, 2008, 10:18:20 AM
i would say to check this out:

http://www.archive.org/details/dgray2000-09-24.sr77.shnf

but the archive seems to have lost the files yet AGAIN
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: scb on August 20, 2008, 02:41:32 PM
got it fixed on the archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/dgray2000-09-24.sr77.shnf
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: intpseeker on August 20, 2008, 09:55:06 PM
got it fixed on the archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/dgray2000-09-24.sr77.shnf

V. nice!
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: Church-Audio on August 20, 2008, 10:16:40 PM
never been a fan until this weekend.  I used Joe's hypers and his SR77 cards were flown for everything as well.
the combo of those hypers>m148 is awesome!!

I think i'm convinced that EW mics running into a warmer/punchier colored preamp is a good thing.
any transformer based pre...., or I bet a MME would sound great.  As soon as I get a patch from Joe, i'll seed my RRE recording from upnorth and you can hear for yourself.


Earthworks always amazes me. How they take a cheap Panasonic capsule and make it sound so good. They are masters at building mics. Some of the things they do inside are pretty intelligent and very advanced as far as mic design is concerned very underrated.


Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: illconditioned on August 20, 2008, 11:03:45 PM
never been a fan until this weekend.  I used Joe's hypers and his SR77 cards were flown for everything as well.
the combo of those hypers>m148 is awesome!!

I think i'm convinced that EW mics running into a warmer/punchier colored preamp is a good thing.
any transformer based pre...., or I bet a MME would sound great.  As soon as I get a patch from Joe, i'll seed my RRE recording from upnorth and you can hear for yourself.


Earthworks always amazes me. How they take a cheap Panasonic capsule and make it sound so good. They are masters at building mics. Some of the things they do inside are pretty intelligent and very advanced as far as mic design is concerned very underrated.

I wonder if they use something better than "cheap" capsules.

I've noticed that there are some *really* nice sounding small omni caps out there. My two favourites now are the Sennheiser KE4 and the Countryman B3.  They are both a bit smaller than the Panasonic (5mm diameter).  The Senns have a gold plated mylar diaphragm.  Tons of detail, a bit on the warm side.  The Countryman (apparantly) have a stainless steel diaphragm, very natural sounding, just a bit warm, not harsh at all.  All I can say, is holy shit these sound fantastic.  Better than most "full size" or "professional" mics I've heard.  Take a listen to some samples I've got at Soundmann.com.

I would love to know who manufactures the Countryman capsules.  I'm sure they are from somewhere else, but the question is where.  Also, I would not be surprised to see the Sennheiser capsules in other manufacturers' products, maybe even the Earthworks :).

  Richard
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: SmokinJoe on August 22, 2008, 10:01:30 PM
Here is a nice warm sample with Earthworks SR77 cards > Nick's m148... buttery smooth, but still detailed.

http://www.archive.org/details/jbb2008-08-09.earthworks.flac16f

I'm not a huge reggae fan, but I tried to roll just about everything at this festival, and it was a good opportunity to experiment.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: run_run_run on August 23, 2008, 01:46:10 PM
Here is a nice warm sample with Earthworks SR77 cards > Nick's m148... buttery smooth, but still detailed.

http://www.archive.org/details/jbb2008-08-09.earthworks.flac16f

I'm not a huge reggae fan, but I tried to roll just about everything at this festival, and it was a good opportunity to experiment.
Sounds great, although I recall the music being more interesting in person :lol:
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: Nick's Picks on August 27, 2008, 06:28:21 AM
:)

that is a nice sounding pull.
Title: Re: Earthworks...
Post by: gusbud1 on September 03, 2008, 01:25:17 PM
Here is a nice warm sample with Earthworks SR77 cards > Nick's m148... buttery smooth, but still detailed.

http://www.archive.org/details/jbb2008-08-09.earthworks.flac16f

I'm not a huge reggae fan, but I tried to roll just about everything at this festival, and it was a good opportunity to experiment.

Sounds great!  I love the detail you get from earthworks as well, the low end could be better on the sr78's, that's why I grabbed a pair of omni's and in the future a pair of cards  :)