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Title: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: tgakidis on September 01, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
Just picked up a mini-mp and was wondering what a/d would work well with r-4 busman t-mod.  I gonna try analog in with the r-4 with the gain of the mmp doing the work (I know i would pick up some flavor of the mod).  Any mimi-mp users have suggestions?

Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions
Post by: tenesejedd on September 01, 2008, 09:53:08 AM
Your signature line lists the Edirol R-09. If you still have that, I would run the MiniMP > line in on the R-09.

I owned an MiniMP for about a year and ran it into my Edirol R-1 with great results. The R-09 is a step up so i would imagine improved results. You will need a stereo XLR to 1/8" cable to do this.

This of course assumes that you wanted to strictly do 2 channel vs 4 channel in R-4.

Those are my thoughts. The MiniMP is a fanastic pre. I am very pleased with my Busman T-Mod FR2LE, but I did like the sound of my MiniMP better.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions
Post by: bgalizio on September 01, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
A Korg MR-1 would make a nice combo.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: stevetoney on September 01, 2008, 10:57:59 AM
Why do you need an A/D if you have an R-4?  Doesn't the R-4 already have a high quality A/D built in?

Anyway, check this for an MMP directly into my unmodded PMD-620, which some say sounds as good as an R-09, but others say not so good...personally, I like!

http://www.archive.org/details/spam2008-06-27.dpa4021
http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2008-06-25.dpa4021

Or check this into the line in of Busman mod HD-P2, which does A/D just fine...

http://www.archive.org/details/raq2008-07-11.dpa4021
http://www.archive.org/details/duo2008-07-10.dpa4021

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the MMP into the handheld R-09 OR a full-sized all-in-one. 
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: easy jim on September 04, 2008, 03:17:01 PM
Why do you need an A/D if you have an R-4?  Doesn't the R-4 already have a high quality A/D built in?

Also, the R-4 resmaples the digital input, so it is kinda pointless to try using an external A/D with the Edirol units unless you have an R-4 Pro or R-44.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: tgakidis on September 05, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Why do you need an A/D if you have an R-4?  Doesn't the R-4 already have a high quality A/D built in?

Also, the R-4 resmaples the digital input, so it is kinda pointless to try using an external A/D with the Edirol units unless you have an R-4 Pro or R-44.

?, Please explain.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: run_run_run on September 05, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
Why do you need an A/D if you have an R-4?  Doesn't the R-4 already have a high quality A/D built in?

Also, the R-4 resmaples the digital input, so it is kinda pointless to try using an external A/D with the Edirol units unless you have an R-4 Pro or R-44.

?, Please explain.
Joe explained it to me real good once, page him
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: tgakidis on September 08, 2008, 02:26:46 PM
Gonna stick with straight mmp > r-4.

Thanks, +T's all around.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: tenesejedd on September 08, 2008, 07:18:32 PM
Gonna stick with straight mmp > r-4.

Thanks, +T's all around.

I think thats a good choice. Since you have a T-Mod R4, it should have a minimal effect on the sound that the MiniMP is feeding it.
Title: Re: Mini-MP > A/D?? Suggestions > R-4 BM T-mod
Post by: easy jim on September 08, 2008, 07:35:26 PM
Why do you need an A/D if you have an R-4?  Doesn't the R-4 already have a high quality A/D built in?

Also, the R-4 resmaples the digital input, so it is kinda pointless to try using an external A/D with the Edirol units unless you have an R-4 Pro or R-44.

?, Please explain.

The R-4's s/pdif input is useless because it cannot/does not lock on to the incoming digital stream.  Rather, it re-samples/re-clocks it and you end up with different data than the original source. 

Of the Edirol recorders, only the R-4 Pro and R-44 can lock onto an incoming digital stream (AES and coax s/pdif respectively) and capture it 'bit-perfectly' or 'sample-accurately.'