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Title: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: pepperman on July 22, 2010, 10:29:57 AM
I undrstand the need for Balanced 1/4" TRS however what can be done when all that is available from the soundboard or another recorder is RCA outputs. If I run these down to 1/8" I am running through the pre-amp.
What do you all do?
Thanks in advance
Stuart
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Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: flipp on July 22, 2010, 10:36:33 AM
adapters are your friend, see http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=14253.0

Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: pepperman on July 22, 2010, 10:53:37 AM
Thanks Flipp,
Adapters are great however I am a little ignorant in a few areas, the Micro Track II has 2 options;
1) the 1/4" Balanced TRS which is how you get past the built in pre-amp and works fine when I have an XLR output from the board.
2) the 1/8" input which is then running through the pre-amp which seems to be extremely hot when I use this.
I am sure that I could attenuate the signal 10db or 20db however I was wondering if there were any other work-arounds?
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: flipp on July 22, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
You could always go board > AD of whatever "flavor" you prefer > SPDIF in on the MTII but then you have an extra box in the chain. Not really a problem since with a board patch you obviously aren't trying to stealth.

< that's assuming the MTII has an SPDIF input like the MT24/96 does (I have the original MT and am not that familiar with the MTII) >
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: pepperman on July 22, 2010, 11:14:04 AM
Hey Flipp,
I thought of that also and here is where I went with it.
I have a pair of Len's 4060's and his battery box. I was considering getting the Church Audio pre-amp for the mics for more control however since that would not help with this issue I would need yet another box (A>D converter).
I guess the question is; is there 1 small box that will do all of this and not break the bank? I recorded for years with a Sony M-1 so this was never an issue.
Thanks Again, I really appreciate your input!
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: flipp on July 22, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Hey Flipp,
I thought of that also and here is where I went with it.
I have a pair of Len's 4060's and his battery box. I was considering getting the Church Audio pre-amp for the mics for more control however since that would not help with this issue I would need yet another box (A>D converter).
I guess the question is; is there 1 small box that will do all of this and not break the bank? I recorded for years with a Sony M-1 so this was never an issue.
Thanks Again, I really appreciate your input!

Not that I'm aware of. I've never needed one so haven't looked and don't know what the smallest available is. There are always the V3s and UA5s but they aren't exactly small and the Grace isn't really budget friendly. Perhaps someone who knows of the best/smallest pre/AD will chime in.
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: yug du nord on July 22, 2010, 12:22:44 PM
^^^Sony SBM-1 w/coax mod would do this....  but it's 16bit.  Which is just fine in my book.....  but you might want 24bit since you have a 24bit recorder.  SBD>rca>SBM-1>coax>MTII
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: flipp on July 25, 2010, 01:06:16 PM
If you record in 16bit another option is the Zefiro Inbox/DeneckeAD20 which outputs both optical and SPDIF signals.

SBD RCAs > XLR ins on - AD20 - SPDIF out > MTII

All you would need is a set of RCA>XLR and an SPDIF cable. The AD20 runs on a standard 9-volt battery and has an input if you wanted to run it from an external battery.
Title: Re: Micro Track II recording from Soundboard
Post by: tcf on July 26, 2010, 11:47:49 AM
I'd use the 1/4 inch inputs and add some attenators just in case.  I've brickwalled the mt taking the and feed without attenators. IMO the mt sounds as good or better than a sbm.