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Title: DIN and DINA
Post by: Josephine on March 08, 2005, 02:51:28 AM
Can someone tell me the difference?
Thanks.
:)
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: fozzy on March 08, 2005, 02:53:59 AM
3cm


the non-smartass response
DINa 90 @ 17cm
DIN    90 @ 20cm
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Josephine on March 08, 2005, 02:57:18 AM
Thanks, Fozzy.
I was looking around, but couldn't find it.
:)
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 08, 2005, 03:00:31 AM
personally, i think its much more the angle than the 3cm spacing that you can hear a big difference!
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Josephine on March 08, 2005, 03:19:04 AM
personally, i think its much more the angle than the 3cm spacing that you can hear a big difference!
I'm not following you, Bean . . . ?
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: John R on March 08, 2005, 04:03:02 AM
personally, i think its much more the angle than the 3cm spacing that you can hear a big difference!
I'm not following you, Bean . . . ?

DINa 90 @ 17cm
DIN    90 @ 20cm

which angle?
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Gordon on March 08, 2005, 04:33:14 AM
personally, i think its much more the angle than the 3cm spacing that you can hear a big difference!
I'm not following you, Bean . . . ?

DINa 90 @ 17cm
DIN    90 @ 20cm

which angle?
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Brian Skalinder on March 08, 2005, 09:19:36 AM
Typical usage:

DINA = hypers
DIN = cards

Though I've run DIN hypers plenty of times and think it sounds mighty fine.
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: nickgregory on March 08, 2005, 10:01:20 AM
it really depends on how close your...the hold can be exaggerated if the L/R sides have not had a chance to "converge" so to speak
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: nickgregory on March 08, 2005, 10:12:41 AM
is it right to assume the smaller the room, the smaller the spacing, or should DINA be as minimum as I should go with my MGs?

not necessarily....what you are shooting for is some rejection with the mics, makes for a more natural sound....now I have learned through trial and error that for some rooms, I want to reduce that angle because the 90 degrees picks up boomy echo's....trial and error is really the best way to figure out what a certain room characteristics are
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Swampy on March 08, 2005, 08:43:30 PM
Ya, I find that when Im farther back I like to use hypers in DINA, like in the section at a shed or a balcony at a theatre, cause sometimes I feel like Im just taping the walls :P When Im a little closer like at a club I like hypers DIN.
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: robertd on March 09, 2005, 12:32:02 AM
I use DINA for stealth.
it seems to be the best fitting config to setup in a Kangol.
it also works pretty well if you can't get to the sweet spot and run ORTF since there is a narrower angle.
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 09, 2005, 01:02:59 AM
i could hear more of a difference in angle rather than the 3cm spacing
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Todd R on March 09, 2005, 02:12:50 PM
i could hear more of a difference in angle rather than the 3cm spacing

 ??? Ok Bean, you've got me confused.  There is no difference in angle between DIN and DINa -- both use a 90* angle.  Only difference between the two is the 3cm difference in spacing, 20cm vs 17cm.  Are you just talking about in general you hear more of a difference between different patterns that use different angles compared to patterns that differ only in spacing of a few centimeters?
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: aberg on March 09, 2005, 02:50:52 PM
Yeah, I think that's what he means.
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Todd R on March 09, 2005, 03:11:52 PM
Ok, gotchya, thanks. :)
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 09, 2005, 03:19:14 PM
yues, i just mean in general, i can hear more of a diff in angle rather than a small spacing, like 3cm :)
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: Josephine on March 09, 2005, 03:43:59 PM
It all becomes clear . . . .  ;)
Title: Re: DIN and DINA
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 19, 2005, 12:50:56 AM
Geezzz Bean, I thought you were speekin' English ;D 

I'm with ya... first thing I do is eyeball an angle that will help if it's going to be chatty, then try to get some separation... then go for a beer :P Basicly I don't get too excited one way or the other but do try to determine which set up I end up with. Din'ish, NOS'ish, ORTF'ish...

exactly odog, 'ish' being the key suffix ;D