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Title: New taper looking for mics
Post by: rolandx on October 18, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
Hello, i'm new with this about recording shows.. i actually have a Sony Hi-MD MZ-RH10, and i was thinking in start to tape some local bands that i like.. but i dont have a mic.. and also i dont have too much money for get a good one.. so looking at ebay i found some very cheap but i wondering if this mics will work and if i could maybe get some descent recordings, for example i found this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&viewitem=&refitem=150123707696&item=140166356517&refwidgettype=osi_widget

and a lot more of Sony ECM-DS70P mics very cheap.. i dont have the enought money for get a Church mic for example (from where i read good comments)

So, please can you help me to decide to get that one?

Regards

Roland
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: T.J. on October 18, 2007, 11:27:56 AM
maybe give these a shot if they are still available:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,92718.0.html (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,92718.0.html)

i think they are pretty good starter mics/battery box combo until you can afford something else down the road (when you become addicted to taping of course  ;) ).
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: rolandx on October 18, 2007, 11:58:24 AM
Hi, thanks for answer... i'm afraid that at this time i dont have enough money for that one :( and i just got a ticket for the Bjork gig here in Peru for first time she will come here!!! the thing is that i spent some money in that ticket so im a bit short for get the mic... mmm i just want to know if that cheap sony ECM-DS70P mic will be enough or will be a waste of money...

Regards
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: rolandx on October 18, 2007, 12:09:31 PM
Ok, this is kinda weird (almost for me)

http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-ECM-DS70P  ($59.95)

and at ebay i found for less than 10$... no no.. US $3.33!!! .. ok what's the catch?
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on October 18, 2007, 12:14:24 PM
I have made better recordings with a set of earbud headphones than that Sony mic.  Seriously, plug the earbuds into the mic input of your HiMD and you will pull a listenable recording.   
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: palmettobum on October 18, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
I have made better recordings with a set of earbud headphones than that Sony mic.  Seriously, plug the earbuds into the mic input of your HiMD and you will pull a listenable recording.   

Learn something new every day...
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: attheshow on October 18, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
I never trust any ebay auction out of China. I would look for an ECM-717 or ECM-719 used. Or, if you there's not likely to be lots of crowd chatter, look for a set of omni lapel mics... The closer to 20Hz-20kHz range the better. Good luck!
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: MSTaper on October 18, 2007, 02:26:14 PM
Earbuds, huh? I always wondered if that would work. I'll be darned!  :P rWc3523
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on October 18, 2007, 02:43:39 PM
Most any speaker can be used for a microphone.  A speaker is a very similar concept compared to a microphone, it just works in reverse.  I large speaker only does a good job of capturing low freqencies.  Yamaha actually sells a speaker that is intended to be used as a kick drum mic!  The small earbuds will pickup a wider frequency range than you would think.  I wouldn't use an expensive set of earbuds though, as I have no idea if the plug-in-power does any damage to the headphones...
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: Roving Sign on October 18, 2007, 04:45:43 PM
You can get the old Realistic Stereo Mics - (Im sure Im not the only one who started with one of those!)

Here's one that will do the job for $8.00! (no picture - but mentions model - see cross referenced link)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-REALISTIC-Stereo-Electret-Dual-Microphone_W0QQitemZ270177094033

Model number referenced here...with pics.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Realistic-Stereo-Electret-Condenser-Microphone_W0QQitemZ160163653330

Heres a show on the archive with the above mic
http://www.archive.org/details/hw3-2005-09-04.flac16

There are a few Realistic models that will do...if you are really on the cheap.

You see a lot of these...often very cheap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/REALISTIC-33-919A-Dual-Stereo-Mic-Microphone-System-Go_W0QQitemZ260166310712

However - this one is my favorite...dont see too many of this one.
(http://www.ling.ohio-state.edu/facilities/images/15.jpg)
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: rolandx on October 18, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
thanks for the advice about that sony mic.. im getting a : giant squid omnis :D it will arrive in one or two weeks.. maybe soon with lucky :)
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: darktrain on October 19, 2007, 12:49:50 PM
thanks for the advice about that sony mic.. im getting a : giant squid omnis :D it will arrive in one or two weeks.. maybe soon with lucky :)

I started with those and soon realized that they were limited(in fact the only good show i got from them was Jewel-acoustic) so now 6-8 mics later i have some good stuff, which i should have just bought the first time, i was trying to do "this" cheap as possible but that wasn't very satisfying at all, as soon as a shelled out a few extra bucks and got some good listenable recordings i was satisfied. So strap in for the ride because as soon as you get the fever you will be scouring the yard sale in no time.
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: phishin_for_the_goods on November 07, 2007, 04:16:10 PM
I was told the Avantones CK-1 are really great mics plus you get 3 caps!
Title: Re: New taper looking for mics
Post by: eric.B on November 07, 2007, 04:44:33 PM
Earbuds, huh? I always wondered if that would work. I'll be darned!  :P rWc3523


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