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Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« on: April 10, 2008, 11:29:30 PM »
I've just recorded my first couple of shows with my Edirol R09.  Great machine but while I wait for my external mics, I have used the internal mics.  The recordings are good but a bit bassy (which the shows were ).  Is there a setting on the R09 where I can reduce the bass.  I had the low cut off and the AGC off as well.  My levels were around 13-15 (recordings were in a cabaret and a bar).

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 01:06:33 AM »
Turn on the low-cut filter.  :P
nothing > nada > R-09

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 01:19:49 AM »
Will try.  Many thanks!

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 08:07:27 AM »
I'd just live with the bass as is, and then reduce it a little in post. I've read people here say many times that you can always take bass out of a recording, but it's a royal pain trying to put bass back in to a thin recording.
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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 10:10:06 AM »
I've just recorded my first couple of shows with my Edirol R09.  Great machine but while I wait for my external mics, I have used the internal mics.  The recordings are good but a bit bassy (which the shows were ).  Is there a setting on the R09 where I can reduce the bass.  I had the low cut off and the AGC off as well.  My levels were around 13-15 (recordings were in a cabaret and a bar).

Thanks
Keekade

Please, don't use the Low-Cut. Ever. Get rid of the bass on post. R-09's Low-Cut feature is not intended for live music. Trust me. I did that once. You'll end up with a horrible, thin sounding recording. ;)
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BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
Recorders...................Tascam DR-100MKIII, Marantz PMD 620 MKII, Edirol R-09

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 01:57:26 PM »
How do you get rid of bass in post? 

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 02:15:58 PM »
How do you get rid of bass in post? 

You need a proper editing software: Sound Studio, Audacity, Soundforge and many others. That kind of software has a feature called HPF (high pass filter). You can decide the amount of bass you want to filter. It's not really hard. ;)
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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 03:24:45 PM »
Thanks. :)  I'm using Audacity for normalizing and fades, and I'm amazed at how easy it is to use.  I haven't explored any of its other features yet, but I'm sure that they're just as easy.

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 03:29:17 PM »
Thanks. :)  I'm using Audacity for normalizing and fades, and I'm amazed at how easy it is to use.  I haven't explored any of its other features yet, but I'm sure that they're just as easy.

If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help ( if I could, I'm no expert) ;)
Mics..........................SP-CMC-8, HLSC-1 and HLSO-MICRO
BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 06:45:53 PM »
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 08:05:49 PM »
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?

Church Audio mics and preamps work very nicely with the R09. Definitely worth checking out. I've had a pair of his CA-11s for just about a year now, and I've had some very nice results with them.
Church Audio CA-11s, CA-14 Cards, CA-14 Omnis, Peluso CEMC-6

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Edirol R09
Edirol R09HR
Sony M10
Edirol R44

My live recordings.... HERE:

https://www.facebook.com/Liverecordings1

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 08:47:00 PM »
Many thanks for all the information!  I think I'll just live with it and reduce it in the post.  I'll have to pick up a good pair of external mics.  Any recommendations (for around $200)?

I've heard amazing things about the Church gear (and amazing recordings). ;)

My friend Arni has a great sounding recording with his SP CMC-8. Very good mics.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,101539.0.html

You can also try Microphone Madness cards (HLSC-1 Sennheiser MKE 40) or omnis (HLSO-Micro Sennheiser MKE 2).
Last night I taped for the first time with Senn MKE 2 >bb>R09 ( the great Larry Coryell). I'm amazed.
Price: $ 250/pair.
Good luck and have fun  ;)
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Mics..........................SP-CMC-8, HLSC-1 and HLSO-MICRO
BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
Recorders...................Tascam DR-100MKIII, Marantz PMD 620 MKII, Edirol R-09

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Re: Reducing bass with Edirol R09 (internal mics)
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 09:41:51 PM »
Many thanks for the information!!

 

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