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Offline jagraham

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line in/mic in on the JB3
« on: March 26, 2008, 04:06:23 PM »
i recently read the JB3 FAQ on here and realized it said i shouldnt be using mic in.  i have been using mic in for a while.  im using church audio cards > STC-9000 preamp.  if i try to use optical in or line in it the signal is very weak.  is there something obvious i might be doing wrong or is mic in right to use with the setup?
Mics: Nak CM-300s, Nak CM-100s, CP-1s, CP-2s, AT-853s(Cards, Hypers, Omnis) CA-14s(Cards, Omnis)
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Re: line in/mic in on the JB3
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 08:47:35 AM »
i recently read the JB3 FAQ on here and realized it said i shouldnt be using mic in.  i have been using mic in for a while.  im using church audio cards > STC-9000 preamp.  if i try to use optical in or line in it the signal is very weak.  is there something obvious i might be doing wrong or is mic in right to use with the setup?

The FAQ is right. "Mic-in is known to suffer from nasty artifacts like hard drive whine and a high noise floor."

I have no first hand experience from the STC-9000, but I was under the impression that the output signal is hot enough. Did you crank it up all the way, and maxed the line-in gain on the JB3 when testing? Is the battery in the preamp still good?

Paging Mr Church, maybe he can tell about the output?!

I noticed another taper called "ninehi", running a similar rig:
http://pf-db.com/index.php?concert_id=1613&bootleg_id=3924
http://www.jamtothis.com/showthread.php?t=9365

Maybe he can share his experiences? He's registred here, but hasn't logged in since 2006:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7088

There are also a few others here using similar gear:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,88289.msg1173161.html#msg1173161
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,92275.msg1229109.html#msg1229109

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Re: line in/mic in on the JB3
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 12:30:21 AM »
When i use my 9000/JB3 combo at rock concerts, I will set the switch to +10dB and crank that knob all the way.  I have the JB3 set at line-in, 48K, and 0 gain.  I usually peak around -6dB and add gain in post.  For acoustic show, I will use the +30dB and add gain as needed.  I've noticed that the 9000 required quality 9V batteries and fresh ones at that.  I've tried using cheapies and I will not get the gain that i need compared to, say, duracel batteries.  If you can try differenct cables and/or recorder?  Maybe there is a bad link somewhere.

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Re: line in/mic in on the JB3
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 01:28:02 AM »
When i use my 9000/JB3 combo at rock concerts, I will set the switch to +10dB and crank that knob all the way.  I have the JB3 set at line-in, 48K, and 0 gain.  I usually peak around -6dB and add gain in post.  For acoustic show, I will use the +30dB and add gain as needed.  I've noticed that the 9000 required quality 9V batteries and fresh ones at that.  I've tried using cheapies and I will not get the gain that i need compared to, say, duracel batteries.  If you can try differenct cables and/or recorder?  Maybe there is a bad link somewhere.

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Re: line in/mic in on the JB3
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 02:49:56 PM »
thanks for the help guys, ill be testing this out tonight and ill post if things are better!
Mics: Nak CM-300s, Nak CM-100s, CP-1s, CP-2s, AT-853s(Cards, Hypers, Omnis) CA-14s(Cards, Omnis)
Pres: CA STC-9200, CA-UBB
Recorders: Tascam DR-70D, DR-2D, Edirol R-09

ISO: 1 Teac ME-120, CP-3 Caps, AT-853 Subcard Caps

 

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