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OK, as some of you may know, I'm on the lookout for the best sounding Omni capsules.

Here are two samples, please listen, tell me which you like best, and *why*:
  http://Soundmann.com/2008-04-02-JillBarber_clip_mics1.mp3
  http://Soundmann.com/2008-04-02-JillBarber_clip_mics2.mp3

Basically, if you could take home this tape today, which mics should I wear.  Both are hat mics.  The placement and recording gear is a bit different, but I want to know about the mics.  Go ahead and use whatever descriptive words (warmth, detail, transparency, whatever) you wish.  But in the end, which one do you like best?

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 04:12:00 PM »
Sample 2 sounds better to my ears. Sound is more open and clear. What more can I say?  ;D
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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 04:13:56 PM »
Sample 2 sounds better to my ears. Sound is more open and clear. What more can I say?  ;D

OK, great.  Keep the comments coming.  After a while I will disclose what gear is being used...

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 04:33:19 PM »
Sample 2 sounds better to my ears. Sound is more open and clear.
I second source #2.  Source #1 sounds kinda dull/muffled in the vocals.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 05:05:05 PM »
I didn't read the comments until after I listened but I am gonna go with #2 also. Sounded a little more "transparent" and "clear" and seemed to cut out the chatting crowd more.

#1 I preferred the keys on. It seemed to have a slightly "dirtier" sound that I always love on piano.

Either way she has a great voice.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 06:41:57 PM »
#1 seems dull compared to #2.  #2 is much more "detailed" to me, better highs & the bass (a stand-up?) stands out much better.

Who is it?  Great voice, great song.
EDIT:  Duh, it's right there in the mp3 link.  ::)

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 06:45:10 PM »
#1 seems dull compared to #2.  #2 is much more "detailed" to me, better highs & the bass (a stand-up?) stands out much better.

Who is it?  Great voice, great song.

It is Jill Barber, a Canadian (Toronto based) singer-songwriter.  Yeah, I really like her voice.  I'll be posting a full clip at Soundmann.com shortly.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 08:03:30 PM »
The stereo image of #1 and #2 are different. #1 is more centered and #2 is has be bit more separation. The whole sound-stage in #2 is slightly shifted to the right. Particularly the vocalist and banjo. This exposes the audience on the left a bit more.

It's almost like #1 is a stereo pair in-front of the stage and #2 is back a little further and more widely spaced.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 08:28:29 PM »
#2 sounds a bit more 'like you're there' to me.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 08:41:04 PM »
The stereo image of #1 and #2 are different. #1 is more centered and #2 is has be bit more separation. The whole sound-stage in #2 is slightly shifted to the right. Particularly the vocalist and banjo. This exposes the audience on the left a bit more.

It's almost like #1 is a stereo pair in-front of the stage and #2 is back a little further and more widely spaced.

digifish

That's true, the images are a bit different.  As I said earlier, I'm more interested in the sound/flavor of the mics.  This is as close as I could get to a fair comparison given that some beer was consumed during the experiment :).

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 09:14:24 PM »
OK, I've just reloaded #2.  EQ applied to make it flat, at least closer to #1.

Nothing is ever flat, though, as they are both mounted (flush) on my hat, at at different places, lol.

Thanks again.  Mics will be identified in a bit...

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 10:41:44 PM »
Sample 2 sounds better to my ears. Sound is more open and clear.
I second source #2.  Source #1 sounds kinda dull/muffled in the vocals.

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 11:40:15 PM »
#2 :)
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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 02:50:45 PM »
Sample 2 sounds better to my ears. Sound is more open and clear.
I second source #2.  Source #1 sounds kinda dull/muffled in the vocals.

Todd

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Re: Omni mic comparison: please listen to two samples (of same material)
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 02:58:48 PM »
I know which is which  ;D

Sonic signature of both mics.  I'll reserve my speculation though until Richard posts.

 

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