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What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« on: May 24, 2008, 02:35:51 AM »
Usually I use two pairs of microphones to make two recordings
and try to matrix in the post production.  For the past three years
I have used the following gears:

Mics
Audio Technica 853s (card)
Audio Technica 943s (card/hyper)
DPA 4061
Church Audio CA9100 (card)
EM-123
OKM-Rock 2(Klassic)

Pre or Battery Box
Church Audio ST9100
Sound Professionals Power Module with bass-roll off
OKM A3
Denecke PS2-mini

Recorder
Korg Mr-1
Sony TCD-D100

I really like AT853, DPA4061 and Church Audio mic as an individual
recording but when it comes down to recording for matrix in the post,
my most favorite mics are AT943s (using along with a SP power module
with bass-roll-off on) and OKM (used with A3).  You might think it is
strange but so far I could not come up with the better combination.
If you are a taper who makes two recordings to matrix in the post,
what is your favorite mics?

For your reference, please check the following link.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=197853

A friend of mine started seeding a show with this set-up at DIME.

Koichi
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Schoeps MK4s>(Nbox Active cables)>Nbox+ or Nbox Platinum>Izzy (Split) Cables>Sony PCM-M10 or Sony PCM-D100

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(1)DPA4061s>(terminated with 3.5 stereo mini)>Church Audio Pre>(3.5 stereo mini+Canare cable + 3.5 stereo mini)>Sony PCM-M10
(2)DSM-6S/L>(terminated with 3.5 stereo mini)> Sony PCM-M10

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(1)scanner
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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 01:15:44 AM »
Try Nevaton MKE400's.  Check out illconditioned's website to hear what they sound like.
http://www.russian-mics.com/
Portable 2 track:
Sennheiser MKE2 (HRTF) > Edirol R-09
AT822 > Edirol R-09
Studio Projects C4 (ORTF/XY) > Presonus Firepod > Edirol R-09

4 Track Open Rig:
Studio Projects C4 (ORTF)/FOH Feed > Edirol R4

FOH:
Mackie 1604 VLZ Pro > dbx 215 Graphic EQ > Behringer PMX2000 (Power Amp Section) > Behringer B1220 Mains

Multitrack:
Mackie 1604 VLZ Pro > Tascam DA-38 w/Burr Brown Op-amps

Out:
M-Audio Fast Track Pro > Mackie 1604 VLZ Pro > ESI nEar05 nearfields OR AKG K99 Headphones

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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 03:04:42 AM »
Try Nevaton MKE400's.  Check out illconditioned's website to hear what they sound like.
http://www.russian-mics.com/

Yeah the Nevatons are simply incredible.  Almost as detailed as the DPA4060, but with none the grating sound, my ears just get fatiqued after listening for a long time.   I'm not sure if this is different types of distortion in the mics.  Also, I can't describe it, but there is something "warm" in the Nev's that is just not there in the "dry" sound of the 4060s.  Listen to some of my recordings at Soundmann.com and see if you agree.

One problem I've got with the Nevs is I think quality control.  I had one mic die on me.  I got a new pair, I don't think they're quite very matched either.  Still working on this, testing the freq response.  It seems out by quite a bit.

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« Last Edit: June 04, 2008, 03:08:23 AM by illconditioned »
Please DO NOT mail me with tech questions.  I will try to answer in the forums when I get a chance.  Thanks.

Sample recordings at: http://www.soundmann.com.

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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 07:09:29 AM »

One problem I've got with the Nevs is I think quality control.  I had one mic die on me.  I got a new pair, I don't think they're quite very matched either.  Still working on this, testing the freq response.  It seems out by quite a bit.


They don't typically offer matched pairs of the lavaliers at this time (other mics in the line are offered as matched pairs, but they're still trying to understand why people are wanting matched pairs of lavs.  They're not up on the whole taping thing, obviously)  I'm having pairs hand-matched for those who buy through me though, and I've spoken to them about the need for matching pairs in the future.

As for QC, there have been a few minor issues with them but there is a very favorable return/repair policy...at least from me.  Not sure about other dealers, but TS.com members who buy from me have a couple of advantages in that department over buying elsewhere.
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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 11:13:17 AM »
Try Nevaton MKE400's.  Check out illconditioned's website to hear what they sound like.
http://www.russian-mics.com/

Thanks for the info.  But Every time somebody wrote DPA4060s or 4061, the name of this mic, Nevaton MK400's pop up.
Is that sooooooooo good?  Usually I tape a loud rock concerts.  I am a bit worried about the sound pressure of this mic.
Maybe I should check some more samples or download a few shows recorded by Nevaton at DIME.

Koichi
<Main Rigs>
Schoeps MK4s>(Nbox Active cables)>Nbox+ or Nbox Platinum>Izzy (Split) Cables>Sony PCM-M10 or Sony PCM-D100

<Sub Rigs>
(1)DPA4061s>(terminated with 3.5 stereo mini)>Church Audio Pre>(3.5 stereo mini+Canare cable + 3.5 stereo mini)>Sony PCM-M10
(2)DSM-6S/L>(terminated with 3.5 stereo mini)> Sony PCM-M10

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(1)scanner
 DJ-X2000
 IC-RX7
(2)receiver
Shure P10R
Sennheiser ek2000
(3)recorders
Marntz PMD706

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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 11:32:26 AM »
My vote is for the Nevaton, but I prefer 2 mic recordings over 4....
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Re: What is your favorite stealth mic for matrix in the post?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 11:35:00 AM »
just to follow up, I have used these mics on stage at different times, both on guitar amps and full drum sets with no problems.  These gigs were fully electric and loud.  I'd imagine 2ft away from a pounding drum kit and a loud P.A. would be a good test that these things can handle all the spl you need.  

 

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