Topic: Edirol R-09 HR and possible HCSD glitch ?

[Dede2002]

I have to admit to increasing puzzlement about performance of SDHC cards.  When used in a PC, you can transfer files to the card radically faster than an audio recorder would need to write data.  But trying to use one in a card reader using a DAW to record audio data to it, performance is much slower, with a Transcend 8GB class 6 card only allowing three stereo 24/96 tracks and a Panasonic 8GB class 6 only allowing one (before the DAW locks up due to inability to write to the card fast enough).  Yet Panasonic include class 4 cards with their high-def camcorders (which fill a 4GB card in less than 40 mins). 

I guess all one can do is to thoroughly soak test your chosen card in your chosen recorder before going out on the road.

Exactly what he said

[digifish_music]

version 1.04 here
Sandisk Ultra II SDHC 4 gig card.

spent all day trying to record thunderstorms, no card problems whatsoever.
 

+T a man after my own heart

Were you using the internal mics, I'd be interested to hear the recordings.

digifish

[sunjan]

went to record Yazoo last night (Manchester Apollo). Set at 24/96 on 4GB HCSD Card. 2 hours record time on the display. Set it running. An hour in got this message on the screen;

'SD card Running too slow, press any key'. Not sure why my card failed to cope with the 24/96 rate. Any thoughts.

Also, does anyone know that if the above message is displayed that the recorder still works (ie, is it still recording?).

+T for your troubles, and for taping Yazoo! (I pulled a great tape at the Copenhagen premiere)

Did anyone approach Edirol tech support to ask them properly about the required card specs for 24/96? Why the message only occurs after one hour? Whether this can be fixed by firmware upgrades? And also to verify your second question above.

Have you been able to replicate the error at home? Does it always occur after one hour?

Could the card's performance be affected by heat? Ie if the R09HR runs warm while in the gear bag, the transfer rates suffer? Just a theory, with the old JB3 heat issues in mind.

[Josephine]

I've got a Kingston 8gig card.  I ran my R-09HR at home @ 24/96 until the card filled up without suffering any warning messages or problems.

[polewka]

I too got the message at 1 hour slot.

Must admit, haven't the time just now to investigate further - batting it back to 48 for the time being. So busy at work, just want to pull some great recordings with my new rig. Lots of gigs so far, but nothing I'm over the moon about. Not the rig, it's me and my ludite sensibilities !

Brian JonesTown Massacre next up, Tuesday. Then Mozz / Souxsie / Beck / New York Dolls @ Wireless. Boo Yah !

[Josephine]

I too got the message at 1 hour slot.

Must admit, haven't the time just now to investigate further - batting it back to 48 for the time being. So busy at work, just want to pull some great recordings with my new rig. Lots of gigs so far, but nothing I'm over the moon about. Not the rig, it's me and my ludite sensibilities !

Brian JonesTown Massacre next up, Tuesday. Then Mozz / Souxsie / Beck / New York Dolls @ Wireless. Boo Yah !

What brand SD card were you using when you got the error message?

[Dede2002]

I've got a Kingston 8gig card.  I ran my R-09HR at home @ 24/96 until the card filled up without suffering any warning messages or problems.

I did the same thing last night with a Kingston 4GB class 4 card. No problems at all.

[Josephine]

I've got a Kingston 8gig card.  I ran my R-09HR at home @ 24/96 until the card filled up without suffering any warning messages or problems.

I did the same thing last night with a Kingston 4GB class 4 card. No problems at all.

+t
I'm going to run 24/96 tonight. 

[Dede2002]

I've got a Kingston 8gig card.  I ran my R-09HR at home @ 24/96 until the card filled up without suffering any warning messages or problems.

I did the same thing last night with a Kingston 4GB class 4 card. No problems at all.

+t
I'm going to run 24/96 tonight. 

Me too . Let us know about your gig tonight.

[polewka]

problems occurred with a Transcend 4GB SDHC Class 6.

Was formatted in the HR before use, and after every show > once safely on PC and backed up on DVD of course !

[gmm6797]

Kingston class 4 8gb card was fine on one 90 minute show, ran at 24/96.... plan to run it again shortly on a longer show

[Sunday Driver]

Same problem at DMB on Friday. First run with the HR so I figured I'd go 96 and see what she gives me. Used an 8GB Class 6 card from Transcend. First off, it starts a new track after every 2 GB. At 96, that seems to be every hour. Got through the first two tracks alright, then I looked down and saw no red light and got the "Slow Card" message. One thing I did not do was format the card before I used it. It was a brand new card so I didn't even consider it, but now I always will regardless. I just don't know if that's all it was. On Saturday I ran at 44.1 without any problems.

I guess I'll try one more time at 96, but if the consensus here is that it's almost meaningless to go that high, then why bother. But if there's a glitch in the machine, then it needs to be fixed.

Any more info would be appreciated.

I use the same exact SD card, and formatted it several times before making the actual recording since I was making test recordings at home. I never got this error. So I really do think it is a formatting issue.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I also upgraded to firmware version 1.04.

[bakerstuff]

I've since upgraded to 1.04, formatted the card and ran it at home without issue for over 3 hours at 96/24.