Topic: Edirol R-09HR - Part TWO

[udovdh]

Why bother spending $20+ on rechargeable batteries when you can spend that much on giant packs of double a batteries. and you will have to buy more rechargeable ones later on.

We pay our stuff in Euro's.
A set of 4 good AA's is quickly 5 euros or more. (say US$ 7.50) See http://www.twenga.nl/prijs/10344410.html or similar.
A set of a good charger and some rechargable batteries may be about 35 euros.
So after a few charges the rechargables save you cash. They can be recharged 100's of times.
They last long enough while recording, see the reports.

You also save the environment.

Why is it so hard to do some math? (yes, I can give some background info on that for the US situation but I like to keep it simple now)

[rastasean]

We pay our stuff in Euro's.
A set of 4 good AA's is quickly 5 euros or more. (say US$ 7.50) See http://www.twenga.nl/prijs/10344410.html or similar.
A set of a good charger and some rechargable batteries may be about 35 euros.
So after a few charges the rechargables save you cash. They can be recharged 100's of times.
They last long enough while recording, see the reports.

You also save the environment.

Why is it so hard to do some math? (yes, I can give some background info on that for the US situation but I like to keep it simple now)

I wouldn't be paying $7.5/5 euros for four batteries. At that point, I would get a charger and rechargeable batteries.

[udovdh]

I wouldn't be paying $7.5/5 euros for four batteries. At that point, I would get a charger and rechargeable batteries.

Thanks for the understanding.
Even if we only use the batteries 50 times or so (for the people that fear they'll lose their ability to keep a certain charge too quickly) we save cash, save the environment, etc.
And do you do 50 shows per year?

[Gutbucket]

AA Alkalines can be bought here in Florida for about $10 for 18-20 batteries.

I just paid $30 for 12 high quality low-self-discharge NiMH AAs and $40 for the charger.
(I need enough to run two recorders and have charged batteries ready to cycle)

So it's not really that big a difference over here. And again, piece of mind and having power when you need it is more valuable to many.  You're absolutely right on the environmental argument though.

[Dede2002]

I go to shows to enjoy myself - not to worry and wonder whether my batteries are going to have enough juice to make it through the evening.

Second that. I´m not saying that rechargeables are not a great idea. Of course they are.
It's just that so far they are not so reliable as the regular alkalines. Once they get there, I'll be the first to buy lots of them.
Peace

[gmm6797]

Either of these chargers will allow you to see the mAh that the battery is still taking:
http://tinyurl.com/55h26b
or
http://tinyurl.com/oyclm

I highly recommend either (own both), as it will give you peace of mind, save you money (in the end) and save the environment

[jobseek2001]

Second that. I´m not saying that rechargeables are not a great idea. Of course they are.
It's just that so far they are not so reliable as the regular alkalines. Once they get there, I'll be the first to buy lots of them.

Maybe your reliability experience depends on the type of batteries, the way you (re)charge them en treat them  in general?
So far I did not have issues with NiMH's.

[guysonic]

Rechargeable batteries do take matched use/rundown/storage methods knowledge, and careful maintenance using precision chargers for getting expected long life/reliability that differs with cell chemistry type.

My battery tips section gives usage/maintenance methods working best with various differing cell types commonly used for powering portable gear.

See: www.sonicstudios.com/batsys98.htm#tips

[Dede2002]

Second that. I´m not saying that rechargeables are not a great idea. Of course they are.
It's just that so far they are not so reliable as the regular alkalines. Once they get there, I'll be the first to buy lots of them.

Maybe your reliability experience depends on the type of batteries, the way you (re)charge them en treat them  in general?
So far I did not have issues with NiMH's.

Good for you. 

[aaronji]

AA Alkalines can be bought here in Florida for about $10 for 18-20 batteries.

I just paid $30 for 12 high quality low-self-discharge NiMH AAs and $40 for the charger.
(I need enough to run two recorders and have charged batteries ready to cycle)

So it's not really that big a difference over here. And again, piece of mind and having power when you need it is more valuable to many.  You're absolutely right on the environmental argument though.

Still a pretty big difference.  If you assume that you get fifty charges per rechargeable (which is pretty conservative), then you got 600 batteries for 70 bucks.  And the next batch of 600 would cost $30, since you would already have the charger...Compared that to 30 packs of 20 each at $10 a pack = $300, and the next batch at $300 as well...

Good for you. 

Snarky...

[rastasean]

So far I did not have issues with NiMH's.

link me to ones you own.

[Dede2002]

Good for you. 

Snarky...

No irony intended really.
I respect different opinions. That´s all.
Just wanted to make clear that respect for a different point of view also saves the environment
( at least TS environment).
Peace and happiness

[Arni99]

I just returned from my 1st R-09HR recording.
It was an outdoor show(rock'n roll) and the result is really great.

SPLs where rock-concert-like.
No wind at all.
I taped from center about 25m from stage.

Used my sp-cmc-8 mics + 12V SP-SPSB-9 bbox + line in on r-09hr at gain 60.
Never had to adjust levels during the show. Peaks where at -6 to 3-db at 24bit 44,1kHz.
 

[Arni99]

here a sample on DIMEADOZEN from my recording yesterday:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=212340

[Dede2002]

here a sample on DIMEADOZEN from my recording yesterday:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=212340

Sounds really, really nice
Thanks for sharing.