Topic: Schoeps(factory) NOS Bar ???

[dennisrtyler]

well i know i read on TS that schoeps had come out with a NOS bar for the 21s. i can't for the life of me find that thread or find the bar on the schoeps page. does anybody remember the thread or the model # of the bar? TIA!!

[boojum]

Have you tried the Schoeps website?

[dennisrtyler]

Have you tried the Schoeps website?

of course i actually found a note i made about it when the original post was made. it is called the STCw, like STCg(ortf). what's weird is i can't find one single thing about it on the schoeps site.

[Brian Skalinder]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

[dennisrtyler]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

[DSatz]

If this is vaporware, then I wonder how I've been able to record with it (see photo). For about two years now there has been a Schoeps bar similar to the STC with 25 cm spacing and 110 degree angle between the capsules. This gives a very slightly wider recording angle than ORTF when used with 2 x MK 21 "wide cardioid" capsules on Colette cables, or 2 x CCM 21 compact microphones.

Redding Audio certainly knows about it and stocks it, and so does Jerry Bruck; he and I were the co-instigators of this product. When the first batch of these became available, I bought Jerry's for him as a gift.

Schoeps doesn't list it in the catalog purely for bureaucratic reasons--they list the STC under "ORTF Stereo," and of course when you use a different spacing and a different pickup pattern, it isn't ORTF any more. The gentleman who puts the catalogs together couldn't think of another place to list it, or so he said.

--best regards

[mmedley.]

Nice reading.


I assume this fits the CCM series and the KC5 cables? What do they run cost-wise since they are "unlisted"?

[dennisrtyler]

thanks for the info Mr. Satz.

[DSatz]

mmedley, you can use either a pair of MK 21 (or MK 21 H) capsules on KC ("Colette") active cables, or you can use CCM 21 U or CCM 21 L miniature microphones. The spacing between capsules, as measured between the center points of their diaphragms, becomes a few mm wider when CCMs are used--so the stereophonic recording angle becomes very slightly smaller in that case, but only by one or two degrees.

--best regards

[trajhip2000]

Anybody have a feel for how the center vs side emphasis compares for this "wide ortf" subcard config vs a std ortf setup with cards? Thanks.

Steve

[Əkoostikal]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

I may be a little late on this but I just got the 2008 catalogue and it IS in there and listed as: "STC-W - Special version of STCg for (2) MK21 capsules with active cables or (2) CCM21" Price $155

[Kevin Straker]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

I may be a little late on this but I just got the 2008 catalogue and it IS in there and listed as: "STC-W - Special version of STCg for (2) MK21 capsules with active cables or (2) CCM21" Price $155

155 for a rod of black delrin. Paging Robert Kwon!!!   

[dennisrtyler]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

I may be a little late on this but I just got the 2008 catalogue and it IS in there and listed as: "STC-W - Special version of STCg for (2) MK21 capsules with active cables or (2) CCM21" Price $155

155 for a rod of black delrin. Paging Robert Kwon!!!   

the CCM L mics don't fit in the kwons because of the lemos

[spreadheadtom]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

I may be a little late on this but I just got the 2008 catalogue and it IS in there and listed as: "STC-W - Special version of STCg for (2) MK21 capsules with active cables or (2) CCM21" Price $155

155 for a rod of black delrin. Paging Robert Kwon!!!   

the CCM L mics don't fit in the kwons because of the lemos

are the lemo's to small for it to fit snug?

[dennisrtyler]

Call Redding Audio or Jerry at Posthorn - if it's available, they'll know about it - and then buy it from them to support their business and customer service. 

yeah redding seems to know nothing about it. someone on this board posted that schoeps had come out with the STCw in their newest catalog and advertised it to be used with CCM21s. i guess it was vaporware.

I may be a little late on this but I just got the 2008 catalogue and it IS in there and listed as: "STC-W - Special version of STCg for (2) MK21 capsules with active cables or (2) CCM21" Price $155

155 for a rod of black delrin. Paging Robert Kwon!!!   

the CCM L mics don't fit in the kwons because of the lemos

are the lemo's to small for it to fit snug?

too big actually. that's the problem.