Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: decreasing crowd noise on a recording  (Read 5201 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline marksk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Gender: Male
decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« on: July 16, 2008, 01:53:13 PM »
i recorded my first show last week and there were some very enthusiastic concertgoers next to me. i'd like to decrease the volume of their excitement in the recording, but do not know how. i have cool edit pro 2.0 at my disposal. could some of the experts please give me some tips?

thanks!

Offline sygdwm

  • unknown sleath taper
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8747
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 01:53:58 PM »
during music or in between songs?
mics: (4)akg c460b(a60,mk46,ck1x,ck1,ck2,ck3,ck61,ck63)
pres: oade m148/edirol wmod ua5
recorders: marantz stock671/oade acm671/fostex busman vintage fr2le

(P.S.: On a threaded discussion board like this one, there's no need to repeat someone's post when you reply to them; everyone can see all the messages in the thread.)

nameloc01

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 02:20:20 PM »
Keep your mics as high as possible.use cards vs.omnis. get in the "sweet spot". Keep your levels up. Dirty looks works well for me. Tear gas,ect.

Offline marksk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 02:30:11 PM »
thanks for the tips. i was stealthing, so they were on my glasses. i really just did it for the experience, but my daughter wants to keep the show, so i'd like to make it a little more pleasurable for her to listen to.

most of the screaming was between songs, occasionally i'll get one shriek in the middle that i would like to try to knock down a bit.

Offline Dede2002

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1217
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 02:48:35 PM »
thanks for the tips. i was stealthing, so they were on my glasses. i really just did it for the experience, but my daughter wants to keep the show, so i'd like to make it a little more pleasurable for her to listen to.

most of the screaming was between songs, occasionally i'll get one shriek in the middle that i would like to try to knock down a bit.

For screaming between songs you can use Compression or Volume reduction. You have to highlight the screaming area on your waveform and apply the desired effect. Plus, the fades at the beggining/end of the tracks are going to reduce the screamers big time. I usually leave 1 second of fade in and 3 seconds of fade out.
Hope that helps  ;)
Mics..........................SP-CMC-8, HLSC-1 and HLSO-MICRO
BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
Recorders...................Tascam DR-100MKIII, Marantz PMD 620 MKII, Edirol R-09

Offline marksk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 03:15:28 PM »
thanks! i'll look for those on the menu and give them a try tonight.

Offline jerryfreak

  • No PZ
  • Trade Count: (31)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *
  • Posts: 6205
  • The plural of anecdote is not data
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 04:24:10 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
Unable to post or PM due to arbitrary censorship of people the mod doesn't like. Please email me using the link in my profile if you need to connect

Offline Dede2002

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1217
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 04:26:25 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
;D ;D ;D
Mics..........................SP-CMC-8, HLSC-1 and HLSO-MICRO
BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
Recorders...................Tascam DR-100MKIII, Marantz PMD 620 MKII, Edirol R-09

Offline marksk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 04:59:01 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
i agree but when they're 13 year old girls at a jonas brothers concert, it might not be a good idea.

Offline Liquid Drum

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 661
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 05:02:17 PM »
The easy way is to hard limit those peaks.

Effects > Amplitude > Hard Limiting.

Just highlight the bit where its too loud and limit the db level it can reach. I normally try to make the crowd parts a similar level to the music and then normalize the whole thing to -0.1 db.

Just remember, don't limit the peaks too much as it can start sounding 'funny'. By that I mean if you flatten it too much, the sound quality will suffer. Experiment with the hard limit feature.
Mics:
AT933/C

Batt-Boxes, Pre-amps:
CA-9100

Recorders:
Edirol R-09
iRiver H120 (CF Modded)
Sony MZ-RH910 Hi-MD

Video: Canon HV20 E

Offline yousef

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1451
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 05:11:31 PM »
I've had some success using Izotope to reduce annoying noises such as coughs, squeaky chairs etc.

It does seem able to take the edge off enthusiastic screeches and whistles but not as well as with shorter noises.

Of course, it doesn't get rid of the noises completely and you have to be careful not to overdo it and spoil the music itself, but having played around with the program for a couple of hours, I'm encouraged by the results.

An impressive, if not entirely relevant, demo video is here (marked "Spectral Repair Attenuate Mode"):

http://www.izotope.com/support/videos.asp
music>other stuff>ears
my recordings: http://db.etree.org/yousef
http://www.manchestertaper.co.uk
twitter: @manchestertaper

Offline intpseeker

  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 813
  • Gender: Male
  • In music the passions enjoy themselves
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 06:22:38 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
i agree but when they're 13 year old girls at a jonas brothers concert, it might not be a good idea.

Fixed that for ya.  ;D
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
                 Busman modded R-4
                 PCM-M10
                 DR-70D
                 Church modded R-09 micsketeer
“One good thing about music, when it hits- you feel no pain” - Bob Marley

Offline marksk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Gender: Male
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 01:58:35 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
i agree but when they're 13 year old girls at a jonas brothers concert, it might not be a good idea.

Fixed that for ya.  ;D
the things we do for our kids

Offline morst

  • I think I found an error on the internet; #UnionStrong
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 5988
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2008, 11:14:55 AM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
i agree but when they're 13 year old girls at a jonas brothers concert, it might not be a good idea.

Ah, yes- the Anti-Yelling medicine is not recommended for youngsters.  :hmmm:
https://toad.social/@morst spoutible.com/morst post.news/@acffhmorst

Offline intpseeker

  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 813
  • Gender: Male
  • In music the passions enjoy themselves
Re: decreasing crowd noise on a recording
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 05:56:34 PM »
applying massive amounts of herbal remedies to loud people around you sometimes helps
i agree but when they're 13 year old girls at a jonas brothers concert, it might not be a good idea.

Fixed that for ya.  ;D
the things we do for our kids

I know. You're a good dad. I have four daughters and it was a Hanson concert for me...and I liked them. There, I said it.  :-X
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
                 Busman modded R-4
                 PCM-M10
                 DR-70D
                 Church modded R-09 micsketeer
“One good thing about music, when it hits- you feel no pain” - Bob Marley

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.25 seconds with 43 queries.
© 2002-2024 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF