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Metal detector gear test
« on: July 29, 2008, 11:33:31 AM »
So I found this walk-through metal detector at work (Garrett Pinpoint Detection PD6500i) and naturally decided to test some of my taping gear in it.  8)  Here are the results:

Positive (set off alarm):

Edirol R-09
CA-9100
Neumann km184 mics
XLR cables (Neutrik connectors)


Negative (no alarm):

AT853 mics
1/8" miniplug cable (male to male)


I forgot to bring my tiny Sound Pro battery box (nearly all plastic, tiny).  My keys and metal watch set it off too, not surprisingly.  I wonder if any portable recorder can make it through a metal detector if even the ultra-plastic R-09 can't avoid setting it off.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 12:30:09 PM »
So I found this walk-through metal detector at work (Garrett Pinpoint Detection PD6500i) and naturally decided to test some of my taping gear in it.  8)  Here are the results:

Positive (set off alarm):

Edirol R-09
CA-9100
Neumann km184 mics
XLR cables (Neutrik connectors)


Negative (no alarm):

AT853 mics
1/8" miniplug cable (male to male)


I forgot to bring my tiny Sound Pro battery box (nearly all plastic, tiny).  My keys and metal watch set it off too, not surprisingly.  I wonder if any portable recorder can make it through a metal detector if even the ultra-plastic R-09 can't avoid setting it off.


Well I imagine when concert venues start using actual metal decors, we will have to start going in nude or at least in our boxers since almost anything will set them off. We should try just telling people its an mp3 player.
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 01:14:44 PM »
It also depends on the sensitivity setting of the detector.  I have gone through detectors before with an AD20 and nothing.  I also went through a detector last fall with an iRiver h120, 9100, and AT853s with no alarm.

Also, a good defense starts with a good offense, always wear a metal belt buckle.
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 01:17:57 PM »
just carry in a 45.  security will be so busy with the gun they won't even notice the taping gear...
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 01:35:47 PM »
If your keys and watch set it off, that metal detector was probably set really high.  I'm thinking that if they use a walk-through metal detector at a concert venue they're gonna have it set low enough that cell phones, watches, and keys won't set it off, and if it's that low the R-09 and CA-9100 should be fine (I'm not sure about the mics or cables). 

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 01:53:46 PM »
I bust right through with the R-09 and the 9100.  If it was set too sensitive the slightest thing would set it off and no one would get into the concert.
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 02:07:39 PM »
I could not get 4022s, sonosax, interconnect and d100 through the walk-through detector at Cobo Arena. And putting them in the bin with my wallet and keys for the visual inspection wasn't an option.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 02:19:49 PM »
It also depends on the sensitivity setting of the detector.  I have gone through detectors before with an AD20 and nothing.  I also went through a detector last fall with an iRiver h120, 9100, and AT853s with no alarm.

Also, a good defense starts with a good offense, always wear a metal belt buckle.

That's a good point.  Sensitivity was probably pretty high as I have read that the R-09 and 9100 don't set off too many detectors.  There is a meter actually, with maybe 10 bars or so that range from green on the left end to red on the right end that evidently indicates how much the detector is being "triggered."  The AT853s got a few green bars and the gear that tripped the detector got almost all red bars. 

It would be nice though if there was a set of gear that you could easily and reliably sneak past a pretty sensitive metal detector.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 02:23:45 PM »
Just went through the detectors at the MGM Grand in Vegas with an R-09. battery  box, and DSM-6s without a problem.  It all depends on the sensitivity they are set at.  A few months back the same gear did get a reaction from a wand, but was let through because I had a metal belt buckle.

If you ever have trouble with these detectors, just tell security you have your junk pierced.  It's not like they're going to check.
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 02:29:53 PM »
If you ever have trouble with these detectors, just tell security you have your junk pierced.  It's not like they're going to check.

I wonder how long it is before that line becomes a dead give-away for the would-be-taper.  8)

But you're right, they probably won't check. 

+T for getting your gear past the detector!

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 02:54:02 PM »
Ahh, the benefits of being paralyzed!  Few and far between but definately a plus in getting gear in.  I just strap my gear to my wheelchair's battery compartment...in like Flynn!  Only draw backs are when the only accesable seating is far from the sweet spot.
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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 05:20:17 PM »
Ahh, the benefits of being paralyzed!  Few and far between but definately a plus in getting gear in.  I just strap my gear to my wheelchair's battery compartment...in like Flynn!  Only draw backs are when the only accesable seating is far from the sweet spot.

I'd rather you be up and walking like the rest of us, but that is pretty damn cool to get gear into a show.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2008, 05:28:50 PM »
Not good to hear that about Edirol R09... luckily only few venues here have the metal detectors and the metal belt excuse has always worked so far.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2008, 05:31:35 PM »
If you ever have trouble with these detectors, just tell security you have your junk pierced.  It's not like they're going to check.

I wonder how long it is before that line becomes a dead give-away for the would-be-taper.  8)

But you're right, they probably won't check. 

+T for getting your gear past the detector!

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All Good had 18000 people in attendance, at most 15 mic stands were flying...and they're totally open taper friendly.  Similar ratios at most show, I'd imagine.  You feel conspicuous because you've got your gear stashed, but when only 1 out of every 100 at most belt buckles has taping gear stashed behind it, you still have a pretty good chance of getting stuff through.

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Re: Metal detector gear test
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2008, 08:47:15 PM »
The R-09 surprises me.  A while ago I had the R-09 in my cargo pants side pocket and forgot it was there at the airport.  Went though security undetected. 
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