Topic: Edirol R-09HR - Part THREE

[Falconidave]

Tried the v1.05 firmware update last night.  Everything seemed okay until I tried a 30+ minute record test at 24/96.  When I hit the stop button it locked up like fort knox.  Had to yank a battery to get it turned off.  Immediately went back to v1.04 until Edirol get's the bugs worked out.  No way I want to risk losing anything in the field.  C'mon Roland get things together!  Has anyone reported this to them and gotten any response?

I have. No response so far.

Sometimes problems like this have more to do with the make/model/production series of the flash card being used than the deck/firmware version (as far as the manufacturer is concerned). 

As some of us have learned the hard way, even card models reported to work without issues can get (often controller IC) changes in later production runs affecting a deck's ability to function reliably, or at certain (usually higher) recording sampling rates.

Make sure batteries were not low, note firmware version, also telling recording mode and which flash card/serial number or when purchased was used when reporting this kind of problem.

What's interesting is that this firmware version 1.05 is supposed to resolve memory card compatibility issues and another minor noise issue.   Just a note, I've used numerous brands and sizes of SDHC cards in my 09HR and never had any issues with recording on them.  Until I moved up to v1.05 that is.  Sticking with v1.04 until they get it right...

[gmm6797]

been running 1.05 since it came out with no issues

[Falconidave]

been running 1.05 since it came out with no issues

It appears that you are one of the lucky few so far...

[digifish_music]

been running 1.05 since it came out with no issues

It appears that you are one of the lucky few so far...

I am a lucky few too. I am using Sandisk Ultra II 8 Gb cards.

digifish

[gmm6797]

I have used A-Data 16gb class6 and Sandisk 8gb class4

[Falconidave]

I have used A-Data 16gb class6 and Sandisk 8gb class4

I had that exact card (A-Data 16gb class6) in my machine when it locked up.  Also have a Sandisk 8gb class 4 and several Toshiba 8gb class 4's. Just don't feel like I want to risk losing a show in the field.  All current cards I own work fine with v1.04.  But, I'm glad to some folks are benefitting from v1.05.  I'm sure Roland will address it or v1.06 will be more stable... 

[guysonic]

Might as well face the truth and stop the whining in realizing NOT all cards conforming to industry standards implement the standard protocol in exactly the same manner with some memory card models/production runs not working reliably in all applications.   

We know that deck manufacturers often list tested cards as OK for use in their machines for this reason.  The cards they recommend should work OK, and sometimes even these cards get production changes making them not work reliably as predicted.

If we find multiple instances of a certain flash model not proving reliable at some point with new firmware, best NOT to continue using this card, tell the deck manufacturer, and wait for firmware fix before testing again.

It is not possible for any manufacturer to continually test/retest all models/newer production runs of flash memory, so it's up to us to find cards not working communicating the problem so another firmware correction is possible.   

We can assume with each firmware update addressing specific models of flashcard compatibility involves the retesting all available flash models at hand to see if still working as before the upgrade, but important to realize not every card made, and not the latest production runs of all cards get firmware upgrade tested.

This means new firmware upgrades solving issues with more models of flash cards, may also make untested card models/recent production runs of previous user found OK models incompatible if these specific cards were not at hand for manufacturer's testing during each firmware upgrade.

Suggest testing all the cards you intend to use before committing for important purposes, and retesting with each firmware upgrade.

[Church-Audio]

The other often overlooked fact is that unfortunately there are many MANY fake cards out there now that say Sony Or Sandisk that are not. I just got ripped off I purchased a 8 gig card for my psp and it was a fake... To my surprise the card worked in my computer but not in my psp.
In the end I should have known $14.00 rarely gets you a real 8 gig card.

[guitard]

The other often overlooked fact is that unfortunately there are many MANY fake cards out there now that say Sony Or Sandisk that are not. I just got ripped off I purchased a 8 gig card for my psp and it was a fake... To my surprise the card worked in my computer but not in my psp.
In the end I should have known $14.00 rarely gets you a real 8 gig card.

Any flash media or battery (videocam, computer, etc.) you see on eBay listed by a seller based in Hong Kong is probably a fake - and the easiest way to tell (in my opinion) is by the price.  If the price is only a third of what most reputable online sellers in the US are charging - don't waste your money.

[Falconidave]

The other often overlooked fact is that unfortunately there are many MANY fake cards out there now that say Sony Or Sandisk that are not. I just got ripped off I purchased a 8 gig card for my psp and it was a fake... To my surprise the card worked in my computer but not in my psp.
In the end I should have known $14.00 rarely gets you a real 8 gig card.

Any flash media or battery (videocam, computer, etc.) you see on eBay listed by a seller based in Hong Kong is probably a fake - and the easiest way to tell (in my opinion) is by the price.  If the price is only a third of what most reputable online sellers in the US are charging - don't waste your money.

Good thing to remember when buying cards for our decks or cameras.  I learned the "Hong Kong" lesson long ago when buying spare batteries for my Sony MZ-M100, total crap!!  I won't even buy batteries or memory cards from Japan any longer.

[intpseeker]

For those who have a BJ's near by, PNY 8gb for $20.

[Sebastian]

I just got a mail from a shop in Norway that Edirol will increase the suggested price of Edirol R-09hr starting
January 1st 2009 from todays 3390NOK (~482USD, ~€344) to 3628NOK (~515USD, ~€368). I wonder
if they'll do that all over Europe or just Norway.

The opposite is true here. I payed 348 EUR for my R-09HR in October. Now the same seller lists it for 298 EUR. Needless to say I'm pissed!

[a-dub]

The 16gb Kingston Class 4 card works great here. I picked it up for $30 at Fry's Electronics last week. Now it's 39.99 with free shipping. Although keep checking the ad because they do run sales often.

http://shop1.frys.com/product/5774072?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

[Gutbucket]

^^
I have 2 of these, good cards.

[Church-Audio]

For those who have a BJ's near by, PNY 8gb for $20.

I dont yet have a bj but I am hoping to get one soon