Topic: Looking for info on DAT> PC

[greganderson]

Hey, I'm new to the forum.  My standalone CD burner does not work anymore.  I would like to find some info on going straight from DAT into my computer.  I have used EAC to rip, CDWave to track/edit and currently Roxio to burn. 
Can I use either CDWave or EAC to transfer my DAT's?
Here is some info on what I just tried:
I looked at CDWave and saw that I could record.  I have a coaxial(digital) port in the back of my PC.  The 2 choices for Device in the record window are: Microsoft Sound Mapper and DigitalIn Realtek High Definition Audio.  I used the Realtek and it worked, but wasn't sure of the sound quality.  Is this an acceptable way/program to transfer?  Am I retaining the same quality as on the DAT?
Should I download Audacity and use that program instead?
Sorry so many questions, I just recorded 4 shows and need to transfer asap for friends and fans alike.  Any help or direction would be mucho appreciated!  Greg Anderson

[kirk97132]

Greg, welcome aboard.  I'll be sending you a PM too, but as long as it's straight digi in and not doing D/A> A/D > D/A conversions you should be getting a straight clone of what you had on dat.   Check you messages, Kirk

[Brian Skalinder]

Welcome to TS!  The software you're using shouldn't matter for recording -- CD-Wave will work just fine.  The only reason you'd need to use other software, like Audacity, is if you wanted to do anything more than simply record the incoming digital signal from the DAT and insert track breaks (e.g. fades, compression, EQ, etc.)

as long as it's straight digi in and not doing D/A> A/D > D/A conversions you should be getting a straight clone of what you had on dat.

Well...maybe.  There are two questions you may wish to address:  <1>  Does the Realtek High Definition Audio DigitalIn resample the digital input?  <2>  And if it does resample, do you care?

Most DAT tapers prefer to use a soundcard that does not resample the digital input to ensure an exact clone of the DAT.  A resampling soundcard will result in a copy that is not a bit-for-bit clone of the DAT.  Would you hear an audible difference?  Probably not.  But most tapers want an exact clone, and so eschew resampling soundcards.

There are several commonly used soundcards that don't resample.  One is the M-Audio Audiophile 2496.  There are others, but I don't know all the makes / models off-hand.

[greganderson]

That is a very good question.  I don't know if my soundcard resamples the digital input.  Do you know how I can find out?  I'd really like to keep it bit for bit.


Well...maybe.  There are two questions you may wish to address:  <1>  Does the Realtek High Definition Audio DigitalIn resample the digital input?  <2>  And if it does resample, do you care?

Most DAT tapers prefer to use a soundcard that does not resample the digital input to ensure an exact clone of the DAT.  A resampling soundcard will result in a copy that is not a bit-for-bit clone of the DAT.  Would you hear an audible difference?  Probably not.  But most tapers want an exact clone, and so eschew resampling soundcards.

There are several commonly used soundcards that don't resample.  One is the M-Audio Audiophile 2496.  There are others, but I don't know all the makes / models off-hand.
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[kirk97132]

FWIW, not really a definitive answer but here's what I found Greg:
http://www.download3k.com/MP3-Audio-Video/Encoders-Decoders/Download-REALTEK-High-Definition-Audio-Driver.html

Hardware Features

* High-performance DACs with 106dB dynamic range (A-Weight), ADCs with 101dB dynamic range (A-Weight)
* Meets performance requirements for Microsoft WLP 3.0 Premium desktop and mobile PCs
* Ten DAC channels support 16/20/24-bit PCM format for 7.1 sound playback, plus 2 channels of concurrent independent stereo sound output (multiple streaming) through the front panel output
* There stereo ADCs support 16/20/24-bit PCM format, one for stereo microphone, one for legacy mixer recording
* All DACs and ADCs supports 44.1k/48k/96k/192kHz sample rate
* 16/20/24-bit S/PDIF-OUT supports 44.1k/48k/96k/192kHz sample rate
* 16/20/24-bit S/PDIF-IN supports 44.1k/48k/96k/192kHz sample rate
* Supports 444.1k/48k/96k/192kHz ADAT® digital output
* Up to four channels of microphone array input are supported for AEC/BF application
* High-quality analog differential CD input
* Supports external PCBEEP input and built-in digital BEEP generator
* Software selectable 2.5V/3.75V VREFOUT
* Two jack detection pins each designed to detect up to 4 jacks
* Supports legacy analog mixer architecture
* Software selectable boost gain (+10/+20/+30dB) for analog microphone input
* All analog jacks are stereo input and output re-tasking for analog plug & play
* Built-in headphone amplifiers for each re-tasking jack
* Two GPIOs (General Purpose Input and Output) for customized applications, and digital GPI Volume Control
* Supports anti-pop mode when analog power AVDD is on and digital power is off.
* Supports stereo digital microphone interface for improved voice quality
* Content Protection for Full Rate lossless Audio content playback (with selected versions of WinDVD/PowerDVD)
* MIDI interface for electronic music instrument support (Pins shared with S/PDIF-IN, S/PDIF-OUT)
* 48-pin LQFP Green package



Software Features

* Compatible with Windows Vista Premium (complies with Microsoft WLP 3.0 specifications)
* WaveRT-based audio function driver for Windows Vista
* EAX&#8482; 1.0 & 2.0 compatible
* Direct Sound 3D compatible
* A3D compatible
* I3DL2 compatible
* HRTF 3D Positional Audio
* 7.1+2 channel multi-streaming enables concurrent gaming/VoIP
* Friendly user interface for 2-foot or 10-foot remote control applications
* Emulation of 26 sound environments to enhance gaming experience
* 10-Band Software Equalizer
* Voice Cancellation and Key Shifting in Karaoke mode
* Realtek Media Player
* Enhanced Configuration Panel to improve user experience
* Microphone Acoustic Echo Cancellation (AEC), Noise Suppression (NS), and Beam Forming (BF) technology for voice application
* MPU401 MIDI driver to for electronic music instrument support
* ALC885M-GR features Dolby® Master Studio&#8482; (optional software feature)

Gimmie a call anytime Greg if I can help ya out and welcome to the new addictive site, kirk

[ildiko32]

Thanks, tis page resolve my problem with sound card. I have installed latest version of Realtek and is working perfectly! http://www.freedownloadsplace.com/Products/38948/Realtek-High-Definition-Audio-Driver

Thanks!