Topic: stack taping

[Gordon]

edit:  got 6th row right stack


when doing a stack tape would a simple AB config work best?  or a tight xy?  din etc one mic would be pointing at the wall no where near the sound source.

[run_run_run]

I have done it a once or twice.

XY

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[heyitsmejess]

when doing a stack tape, i usually just do AB

[j5brock]

Being a DMB stack taper - A B pointed just to the outside of the stack as high as you can get the mics. And depending on the pre - and mics - some attenuation might be needed. My schoeps will almost always brickwall my PSP2 when that close - even though the signal looks fine on the 744... So I run a 10db pad in front of the PSP2

Jeff

[jefflester]

If it's a smaller venue and the band has some stage volume, A-B with one mic at the stack and one at the stage can work.

[stevetoney]

Not debating what others have already suggested, but you mention that one mic is pointing at the wall.  Remember, mics don't really care about that because they work as a unit, just like your ears.  I mean, if the side of your head is facing a wall during a show, you don't necessarily have to turn your head so you can hear better or so you can hear the show in stereo, do you?

[DisturbedPyro]

Not debating what others have already suggested, but you mention that one mic is pointing at the wall.  Remember, mics don't really care about that because they work as a unit, just like your ears.  I mean, if the side of your head is facing a wall during a show, you don't necessarily have to turn your head so you can hear better or so you can hear the show in stereo, do you?

ive noticed when i tape depening on where im facing, when one mic is more facing the PA, while the other is off to the side, looking at the show in audacity, the one facing the PA stack directly is much stronger/louder. of course this can be adjusted in post by simply amplifying the quieter mic channel moreso than the mic that was facing the PA

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Not debating what others have already suggested, but you mention that one mic is pointing at the wall.  Remember, mics don't really care about that because they work as a unit, just like your ears.  I mean, if the side of your head is facing a wall during a show, you don't necessarily have to turn your head so you can hear better or so you can hear the show in stereo, do you?

ive noticed when i tape depening on where im facing, when one mic is more facing the PA, while the other is off to the side, looking at the show in audacity, the one facing the PA stack directly is much stronger/louder. of course this can be adjusted in post by simply amplifying the quieter mic channel moreso than the mic that was facing the PA

We have a venue locally where thats a problem; one PA is always more prominant in your recordings if you try and do a real stereo recording or you have balanced band (off of one PA) and a ton of crowd noise in one channel. My best recordings (IMHO) have come when I run a midside pointed 3/4ths of the way toward that stack from center and decode it to about a 60-40 degree angle between channels. Sound sort of mono-y but I'd prefer to have a sonically clear/appealing tape then one thats in brilliant stereo. YMMV, best of luck.

[F.O.Bean]

I would and have run something inbetween XY and DIN/DINa. I usually have a distance of around 3-4 inches MAX between the mics, and tighten the angle to around 60-70*. That way you still have a psuedo stereo image

[Gordon]

leaning toward a tight xy.  I'll be about 10-15 feet from the stack ? and it's not gonna be a rock show or anything.  so I don't think brickwalling will be a issue.

[F.O.Bean]

leaning toward a tight xy.  I'll be about 10-15 feet from the stack ? and it's not gonna be a rock show or anything.  so I don't think brickwalling will be a issue.

God call. Ive run a tighter XY too, and liked those results. That's actually the ONLY TIME worth running XY IMO And since you'll be so close, it will have alot wider of an image than youd normally get running XY, say in the OTS or from farther away! Good luck and post a sample or link in this thread once you nail it

[Liquid Drum]

Just point the mics direct at the PA stack.

[DisturbedPyro]

Just point the mics direct at the PA stack.

yes that is best imo. the problem is, when stealthing, if you want to be facing the stage, one mic is facing the pa when the other isnt facing it as directly. this is my situation at the venue i tape at often. in front of the pa, when facing the stage, one mic is more directly at the stack, the other mic isnt  since its on teh other side of my head. i know, i know, this is what comes from stealthing, and when youre running an open rig you can avoid this problem. but thats not my situation unfortunitly. i guess i could have my hat to the side like a "gangsta"

[Josephine]

i guess i could have my hat to the side like a "gangsta"

That's how I run:  Gansta style.   

[DisturbedPyro]

lol it wouldnt fit me. trust me. im very clean cut and very white