you know, if nothing else I've found this thing totally useful for it's *gasp* intended purpose...loaded it up with 700+ mp3's and several live shows ripped from cd's, plug it into my computer at work via USB, and enjoy them all day long with winamp...plus, a few others on the office network can share the tunes too, once I shared out the drive...also found winamp very useful for making playlists on the unit, rather than doing it with the buttons on the front, totally negating the need for the "ARClibrary" function I never had to begin with.