Topic: Roll Off

[dennisrtyler]

should you roll off before or after adding gain?

[Patrick]

I would roll off after gain is added.  Changing your gain structure could change your initial EQ decisions. 

[dennisrtyler]

I would roll off after gain is added.  Changing your gain structure could change your initial EQ decisions. 

that's what i was thinking. thanks Big Whopper.

[Dede2002]

should you roll off before or after adding gain?

Filter first. Volume or Normalize should always be your last editing step.
Take care

[OOK]

I never roll off.  If you have the ability to do it in post I personally feel this is better.  You can never really put back what you didn't record in the the first place. ie If you didn't record the bass in the first place how can you put that same bass back in, you can't.   It is easier to take it out if you have to much....

Peace OOk

[T.J.]

i've always used roll off first then added gain second, but i'm no expert when comes to post production workflow

[Gutbucket]

I often need to tame the boom but I find a simple high-pass/roll-off/low-cut/call-it-what-you-will is usually too blunt a tool for me (except for lopping off low HVAC rumble in quiet recordings that don't have much bass supporting the music in the bottom couple octaves anyway).   Instead I'll dial in a targeted curve with a parametric or just tweak the graphic sliders in the DAW.  The only roll-off choice I make while recording is that determined by the choice of mic pattern. YMMV.

[Dede2002]

should you roll off before or after adding gain?

Just trying to understand. When you say "roll off" you mean using HPF while editing, right?
If this is the case, one more time, filter first and add Volume or Normalize as your last editing step.

[Patrick]

There really are two different schools of thought on this.  I don't think that either way is completely right or completely wrong (e.g, applying EQ after compression), but I have used filters after any fixed gain adjustments in the past with good results.  If someone was going to normalize their track (which I never do), I would filter before.  You don't want to normalize frequencies that are going to be removed.  Cut them out first, so that your normalizing plug in can detect the proper program level and do its job more effectively. 

[Dede2002]

If someone was going to normalize their track (which I never do), I would filter before.  You don't want to normalize frequencies that are going to be removed.  Cut them out first, so that your normalizing plug in can detect the proper program level and do its job more effectively. 

That's my point 

[boyacrobat]

roll off is for pussys
learn to respect bass

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[Dede2002]

roll off is for pussys
learn to respect bass

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Learn to respect different opinions 

[Patrick]

roll off is for pussys
learn to respect bass

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Learn to respect your playback system, and your ears.

There is a difference between bass frequencies in the program material, and low frequency rumble caused by HVAC systems, stand/floor rumble, etc.  Getting rid of these frequencies will let your playback system run much more efficiently.

[boyacrobat]

you decide in post how to tame the ghosts in the machine if any

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[Dede2002]

you decide in post how to tame the ghosts in the machine if any

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