Cool discussion! I should apologize for saying any mics sound like ass. That was too strong, but hey....I love to speak my mind.
I could have said the same thing more eloquently, like I did in later posts.
My point got a bit clouded in the strong language, which was about the newer ones not sounding as good as the older ones I had used.
The older ones have a nice natural tone that was very musical and essentially neutral to slightly brighter than real life.
I feel the "new"ones that I have used were abrasive sounding and just not pleasant to my ears. Overly bright and a bit scooped sounding.
What got me started on this topic was a trip to a friend's new studio here in Nashville last year. We were doing shootouts of a bunch of gear we had both just purchased. He had just bought 4 "new" KM184's to be the main workhorses around his studio. He already had two that he had bought ten years earlier that were some of his favorite mics. The first thing we noticed was the 4 he had bought last year all essentially sounded the same, and the other two sounded WAY better.
So, I started asking around and doing some research about it. Couldn't really find out too much, but other engineers had noticed it as well. The consensus was that new KM184's don't sound as good as their older counterparts.
Neumann may claim they haven't made any changes, but if people are noticing differences in the way their favorite mics sound, then somewhere there is an issue.
So, that is why my advice was to avoid "new" KM184's since there are so many other great mics out there that sound better in my opinion. Even Beyer's
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My original suggestion was AKG. I think they are the best mics in that price range.
Fantastic detail and that "zing" someone else mentioned.