Topic: C460s vs MC930s vs ??

[jnorman34]

hiya TS'ers - i am in need of another nice pair of cardioids.  i have owned DPA 4011s, schoeps cmc64s, m300s, km184s, c481s and 461s, AT4051s, and many others over the years, so i have a fair handle on what things sound like versus what they cost. 

my main application is chamber music, for which i use a main ORTF pair and flanking omnis, and need a second pair of cards for spots, and as stereo pair for piano, pedal harp, etc.  my main mics right now are the AT4051s which i really like a lot.  i'd pick up another pair of those, but i cant ever seem to find a used pair of those.  i always liked how smooth the AKGs were, and i have heard lots of good tihngs about the beyer MC930s but havent heard them.  would like to stay around $600 ballpark for a used pair...

i am looking for mics that have a very flat response in thte top end - ie, NO top end hype.  what do youse guys reccommend these days?  danke.

[mblindsey]

Hmm...I thought I might have a good comp for you, but the best I can do is this:


http://www.archive.org/details/acbs2009-02-14.akg461

http://www.archive.org/details/wh2008-05-11.flac24

The pre's/recorders are different.  Different bands, different styles.  But...same placement in the same bar.

I owned both the 461's and 930's for a while...stuck with the 930's.  I like them as drum OH's better, and I couldn't really pick a live music winner.  Both were winners on different nights....

--Michael

[jnorman34]

thanks michael - how do they compare to mr microphone?

[mblindsey]

thanks michael - how do they compare to mr microphone?

If I only had the old girl now....

[stirinthesauce]

both are great mics.  Either pair would do the job well.  I'm partial to beyers.  I prefer the 460 body with the ck1 cap with a60 reducer ring.  Never a fan of ck61 caps. 

my worthless 2 pennies

[mblindsey]

I can offer you this comp too:

http://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=37285

...excuse my drumming...

--Michael

[notsofast]

I use Peluso's with the sub-card CK21 caps. I have seen them go used with multiple caps for around the price you are looking for.

Here is a pull I got from a Baroque Quartet with Aaron Redner (HBR), all accoustic and I am  happy with the results.

http://www.archive.org/details/HBR2008-10-23.CEMC6-ck21

Tim

[TNJazz]

IMO, for transparency and accuracy the Violet Design Black Finger beats them both.

I think the reason it doesn't get much attention around here is that it's not a common taper mic.