Topic: Just Curious . . . Why Re-Sample

[piperedworm]

Hello my friends

Just curious, I record everything in 24/48.  If I am not going to be ripping CD's . . . Why Re-Sample to 16/441?

Is there some advantage to doing this?

Sorry if this is a stupid question

Jeff

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Hello my friends

Just curious, I record everything in 24/48.  If I am not going to be ripping CD's . . . Why Re-Sample to 16/441?

Is there some advantage to doing this?

As long as you have the space and equipment that will handle 48khz files where ever you want to use them, I don't see that you gain anything by resampling down to 44.1. If you listen to stuff in your car and the stereo system you have won't do 48khz, that would be an example where resampling would come into play, but otherwise I'm pressed...

[piperedworm]

For the car I usually take the 24 48's and rip them into 320kbs MP3's and throw them on my IPOD (I know  . . . ughh MP3's)

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

Only 1 reason for me: Sharing via Bit Torrent for people that don't want/need 24 Bit.

I listen to my recordings in 2 ways. At home I listen to the 24 Bit source via my media server. In the car I listen to V0 MP3's because my car plays MP3's (but not FLAC).

RE: MP3's in the car. I don't see ANY reason to listen to 24 Bit in the car (if it's moving). First of all not many of us (including me) have super high end systems in the car, and most importantly...road noise.

I don't ever listen to the 16 Bit FLAC's, although I do keep them archived.

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Only 1 reason for me: Sharing via Bit Torrent for people that don't want/need 24 Bit.

I listen to my recordings in 2 ways. At home I listen to the 24 Bit source via my media server. In the car I listen to V0 MP3's because my car plays MP3's (but not FLAC).

RE: MP3's in the car. I don't see ANY reason to listen to 24 Bit in the car (if it's moving). First of all not many of us (including me) have super high end systems in the car, and most importantly...road noise.

I don't ever listen to the 16 Bit FLAC's, although I do keep them archived.

yeah, it's all about what's the goal/need. For my portable, I'll do highbitrate ogg files (cause it's gapless and smaller), and at home, I've got 16bit flacs. Since I keep the raw recording (in 24bit), and I can't hear a difference, I don't see a reason to burn the space for 2 24bit sets compared o 1 24bit and 1 16bit.

I also share the 16bit files so I have a dual reason, but if you don't, then it's back to the hardware requirements.

[SmokinJoe]

The biggest reason I can think of (and the reason I do) is because I want to make it easy for the people I share my music with to enjoy it without having to jump through hoops.  Most downloaders barely know how to get bittorrent to work, let alone doing the dither/resample so they can burn CDs.

[acidjack]

Yeah, 16/44.1 mostly just satisfies downloaders who'll bitch at you.  I usually record at 24/44.1 because I'm not worried about syncing to video and don't care about the extra bits, and figure the downsampling will be "easier" on the computer.  But eventually, I suspect I will stop doing it, mostly because I don't care about the CD format.

[fmaderjr]

Just curious, I record everything in 24/48.  If I am not going to be ripping CD's . . . Why Re-Sample to 16/441?

Is there some advantage to doing this?

No advantage if you are not going to burn to CD. No reason to re-sample.

[stevetoney]

For bands that are on LMA, I upload both 24/48 and 16/44.1 versions as a courtesy to people so they can pick which they want.  On average, I'd estimate that downloaders pick my 16/44.1 versions with about 2 to 3 times the frequency as the 24/48.  It's interesting though that I've seeded some shows where the 24/48 version has more downloads than the 16/44.1. 

For archiving purposes, after I share the 16/44.1 version, I get rid of it and I only keep the 24/48 version.  If I were living only for myself, I have no need for 16/44.1 anymore.

[SmokinJoe]

For bands that are on LMA, I upload both 24/48 and 16/44.1 versions as a courtesy to people so they can pick which they want.  On average, I'd estimate that downloaders pick my 16/44.1 versions with about 2 to 3 times the frequency as the 24/48.  It's interesting though that I've seeded some shows where the 24/48 version has more downloads than the 16/44.1. 

I've got a theory that 60% of the "downloads" we see on the LMA are streams.  Then 30% of the people download one or more MP3s, and only 10% download flac files.  The extension of this theory is when you see more downloads on the 24bit source, it's because more people are streaming or downloading mp3s, and most of them don't know or care what "24 bit" means.

If anyone ever sees real figures about this, please post.

[rastasean]

yeah, ONE single play counts as a full download on the 16 bit. you can't stream 24 bit so unless people are really into getting 24 bit, the majority will just download mp3s. I was recently downloading FLACs with downloadthemall but that plugin doesn't work in firefox beta and I don't really care to start each FLAC download manually.

I think uploading 16 bit FLAC to LAM is a good idea so it can be streamed. Nothing is worse than downloading a 24 bit show which, for one reason or another, sucks.

[rastasean]

so if you download a 24 bit recording, how do you downsample all songs to 16bit? My music player can't play 24 bit files unfortunately.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

The biggest reason I can think of (and the reason I do) is because I want to make it easy for the people I share my music with to enjoy it without having to jump through hoops.  Most downloaders barely know how to get bittorrent to work, let alone doing the dither/resample so they can burn CDs.

What he said...

Pretty much, I do it for other people...

Terry

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

For the car I usually take the 24 48's and rip them into 320kbs MP3's and throw them on my IPOD (I know  . . . ughh MP3's)

This is what I do... 

Its so easy, why would you not do it???  And with road-noise, who can tell the difference???

Terry

[Brennan]

The biggest reason I can think of (and the reason I do) is because I want to make it easy for the people I share my music with to enjoy it without having to jump through hoops.  Most downloaders barely know how to get bittorrent to work, let alone doing the dither/resample so they can burn CDs.

What he said...

Pretty much, I do it for other people...

Terry

^^^
What they said...for others to download and easily listen to / burn.