Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)

[rastasean]

continuation of 3 threads on discussion of the sony m10.

Part 3:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=136665.0
part 5: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=145955.0
Has anyone returned their m10 due to resetting the clock each time you power it on?


EDIT:
poll added so hopefully we can track the issue better. please vote if it pertains to you.

edit again:
it seems there may be speculation with the end user not actually saving the time prior to exiting the clock menu in the m10. please re-try setting the time and saving.

[andromedanwarmachine]

Can you use the USB socket on the side to real-time record into an external portable drive of some kind?

[fmaderjr]

Can you use the USB socket on the side to real-time record into an external portable drive of some kind?

No, but why would you want to considering the inexpensive high capacity MicroSD cards available now?

[andromedanwarmachine]

whats the longest take you could manage on an M10 then, fmaderjr...?

I tend to do BIG recording trips away without a computer- what the largest card size (at a decent format) it could manage do you think...?

[andromedanwarmachine]

hang on- I've got the specs of the D50 here; do you think they are comparible...?

It's quoting the maximum time using the internal memory as 6hrs 25m @ 44.1K/16 bit. Does that sound accurate?

[Neilyboy]

If it is anything like the r44 (im just guessing as my M10 is in transit to me now). You should get ~4 hours on internal memory (4 gig) but then throw in a 16gb microsd and you get another 15+ hours @ 24/48.. or if you are a 16/44 guy you can run all day on 16gig.

Neil

[andromedanwarmachine]

Thanks Neil- that's great!

Does the M10 accomodate a 16Gb card with no problems?

JimP

[dogmusic]

Thanks Neil- that's great!

Does the M10 accomodate a 16Gb card with no problems?

JimP

I've had no problems recording with a Lexar 16 GB card on my M10.

[Neilyboy]

Mine ships next week (adoramacamera) they are on a religious holiday this week but starts shipping Monday. I see they have them for 199 now after I paid 213. Oh well win some lose some haha.. Really excited to have it in hand though.

Neil

[fmaderjr]

If it is anything like the r44 (im just guessing as my M10 is in transit to me now). You should get ~4 hours on internal memory (4 gig) but then throw in a 16gb microsd and you get another 15+ hours @ 24/48.. or if you are a 16/44 guy you can run all day on 16gig.

Neil

That sounds right. It doesn't matter what recorder you have-the record time will be with same with the same kHz/bit rate settings and the same amount of memory.

[morst]

Mine ships next week (adoramacamera) they are on a religious holiday this week but starts shipping Monday. I see they have them for 199 now after I paid 213. Oh well win some lose some haha.. Really excited to have it in hand though.

$199 is back! YESS! Now if they can just hold that line until my next paycheck... SBD > Sony here I come!

[Neilyboy]

Mine ships next week (adoramacamera) they are on a religious holiday this week but starts shipping Monday. I see they have them for 199 now after I paid 213. Oh well win some lose some haha.. Really excited to have it in hand though.

$199 is back! YESS! Now if they can just hold that line until my next paycheck... SBD > Sony here I come!

thought you had one of these already tom..

neil

[Jhurlbs81]

freaking love this deck...

[aaronji]

(From Part 3)

since there is still discussion which rec level setting gives 0dB of amplification from line in to line out, I pulled out my old Radio RIM PG 100 (a battery powered 1khz sine generator with attenuator and AC millivoltmeter). Calibration was checked against a Hameg HM8012 4 1/2 digit True RMS DMM.


Here are my findings:

0dB from line in to line out (1Ohm source resistance, 100k load resistance, Limiter and low cut off): Rec level at 6.2 (estimated).

While I was at it, I checked some levels at that setting:

-12dB on the level meter: approximately 245mV
-6dB on the level meter: approximately 490mV
0dB (FS)  on the level meter: approximately 940mV.

Very interesting; thanks, Rainer!  Were these voltages measured at the line-in or the line-out?  The reason I ask is that Sony says the line-in minimum input level is 500 mV, which is about what you measured at -6dB on the meter.  Seems to me (an electronics illiterate) that a voltage equivalent to the minimum input level should produce a meter reading lower than -6dB at unity gain?  Is it possible that the M10 drops the level between the input and output (i.e. a "pro", or at least pro-ish, level input and a "consumer" level output)? 

[morst]

$199 is back! YESS! Now if they can just hold that line until my next paycheck... SBD > Sony here I come!

thought you had one of these already tom..

Oh, you're quite correct. I need ANOTHER one for SBD's!!