Topic: Mic placement - Church CA14

[Jonas Karlsson]

I'm using the Church Audio CA-14 cardioids at the moment, for discreet recording.  Now, I understand I'm losing some treble this way, but I feel the sound is not as good as it should be. It feels like I'm losing too much treble and it sounds a bit "narrow", although acutally wider than the CA11 card. I wish I knew the english language better, then I could explain exactly what I mean here...

All tips and ideas are welcome (via PM, please, if stealth-specific)!

Thanks in advance.

/Jonas (a.k.a Jontebus), Sweden

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If you are taping in places that you probably shouldn't be, a small hit on sonic quality is generally a good trade off to no recording at all.

Of your diagrams, stick to #1, instead of forward facing, consider a 20 degree angle away from center to gain some stereo effect. After that, do a little EQ to compensate for the fabric.

[Church-Audio]

You want to go back about 2 inches.. or so.. That should give you good stereo separation.

Chris

[Jonas Karlsson]

Guess I have to test, test, test until I get it right.

[Church-Audio]

Guess I have to test, test, test until I get it right.

I have done all the testing Here with a dummy head the best results I have are for the placement I mentioned.

Chris

[Jonas Karlsson]

I feel this is really the thing for me, since nobody (except fellow tapers) will have any chance what so ever to see I'm actually taping    Don't know why it took me 18 years to find the right setup for stealth hahaha!

[su6oxone]

I've stealthed multiple shows with an A-B pattern and later switched to a sorta-almost-DIN pattern (90 degrees, about 10-12cm apart) and liked the stereo separation of the tapes I made with the mics at 90 degrees more than the A-B ones.  YMMV of course, but I would just try all three of them out at different shows to get an idea of what pattern is more likely to yield results that you like.

[absnj]

You need to use either a battery box or a pre-amp... if not you may under-powering the mics, depening on the recorder you use.  I have also found that if I record at levels that are too low, I lose treble.  You need to make sure the vent holes in the base are not covered.  The higher you have your mics (think hat versus hip-hat) the better off you will be.

[Jonas Karlsson]

You need to use either a battery box or a pre-amp... if not you may under-powering the mics, depening on the recorder you use.  I have also found that if I record at levels that are too low, I lose treble.  You need to make sure the vent holes in the base are not covered.  The higher you have your mics (think hat versus hip-hat) the better off you will be.

Yes, actually I have a batterybox + Edirol R-09 HR (perhaps I should have mentioned that too, duuuh!) and the rec. levels are always -6dB to -3dB or something like that. The mics is 5cm's over the top of my ears, so I've achieved better results than when clipping the mic on my shirt collar etc. It does, however, pick up a lot of clapping.... WHY do people have to clap and enjoy shows!!?? hahaha!