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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2011, 04:44:51 PM »
what i want to replace is the enclosure, the drives seem to be fine, just can't read the data off them because of the partitioning (or whatever you'd call it that bind their hardware to accessibility of the drives)

I think your best (and cheapest) option is to find an enclosure just like it that works. And put your drives into it.

I have no idea that it would work, but surely if it is a hardware raid then the embedded electronics will be compatible with what you have.
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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2011, 04:52:55 PM »
I've been less concerned about the brand and reliability of a drive than whether I've used a good back-up strategy.  If you assuming that any of your drives can fail at any time, you have a far lower chance of being pimped.

I rsync early and often. I'm actually to the point of expanding my rsync strategy from 3 drives to 5. It's currently; daily driver, and 2 to rsync off of it (1 off site, one on sight that gets synced often). I'm looking at adding another 1 to both the general backup and immediate backup/mirror sections and really fleshing out the rotation and backups.

Second, I label the "birthday" of each drive and some notes about how much use it's seen. This won't account for immediate failures like kirk's, but it will give me an idea of when I need to rotate one from daily driver to off site backup.

Drive companies are a lot of like empires; all good things fall. It's a shame because Maxtor and Seagate used to be great. I once took a Maxtor drive apart, had a PC repair class play with the platers (with their fingers) and put it back together so we didn't lose any pieces. It got mixed into the general pool by accident and didn't find it until about a month later after we'd formatted it and installed linux on it and used it for a bit. I don't think that's possible now.  :(
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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2011, 10:10:21 PM »
But Toshibia only makes up to a 320GB I believe. 

Not true, my local Sams Club sells 500GB Toshiba EXHDD's. I bought one and took it back 20 mins later when I found a 500GB Seagate at Walmart for the same price :)
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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 11:28:15 PM »
These OWCs are amazing and haven't had a failure yet with lots of use and archival...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/

They also have excellent SSDs, but that tech is still very pricey.

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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2011, 11:06:30 AM »
fwiw
i agree on the wd book drives being ok if you where to break it open and put it in a different case
mine and all the replacements seemed to be issues with the case not being seen more then a drive itself not working
the reason i come to that conclusion is because i had one they let me keep instead of sending it back, so i screwed around with it and every now and then you could get it to work and the drive sounded fine when you turned it on
maybe one day i'll break it open and test it out
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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2011, 08:30:16 AM »
I recently asked the Technical Services department at the British Library National Sound Archive about this. After all- they are archiving an enormous amount of material and are hoping to preserve it indefinitely. Also- they are doing it professionally, having investigated it themselves...

I was recommended this; http://www.drobo.com/

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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2011, 10:38:49 AM »
the drobo s 5 bay is $800 and then you would need the drives for it. It is out of my reach to purchase for data backup but looks like something worthwhile of an office environment for backup purposes.

I personally would prefer external enclosures and internal drives. While 640 gigs for a hdd may seem terribly small, it would work fine for most people and only $65:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2011, 10:11:48 AM »
My $.02

I use:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1268&ID=1642

and:
http://www.superflexible.com/
and:
http://www.wiebetech.com/products/cases.php
to store the bare drives.


I have to agree that it's more about strategy and discipline, because I believe in:
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I like the drobo (must admit at first I thought it said dobro).

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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2011, 04:44:16 PM »
I'll make another plug for Drobo.  I have a gen 1 unit and other than the relatively slow USB 2 interface it works as advertised.  I've had individual drives fail within the unit, but simply swapped them out and the redundancy was rebuilt.  I still keep a backup on another physical drive, but I have never had to rely on it.

I have seen the USB only Gen 1 units sell used for $200-250.  The newer ESATA or GIG Ethernet units run around $650 and are much faster.

No manufacturer makes 100% reliable hard drives.  I support servers and PCs for a living and have seen them all fail, the key is to expect that and mitigate against the failure.
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Re: vote for the best external storage device!
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 03:12:13 PM »
FWIW, I have had success with the following strategy:

1. Buy the cheapest drives you can on the assumption that they are all going to die soon.
2. Make sure that you *always* 2 redundant backups (e.g. 3 copies of everything, always, no exceptions).
3. Replace a drive as soon as it starts to go.

I have a firewire drive (LaCie) which has lasted since 2004. I've had drives that kicked in less than a week.

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