Splitting a mic signal PHANTOM questions.......

[Church-Audio]

I have also experienced diminished microphone performance when using splitters, and no longer use them.

Y cables or real splitters?

Chris

[F.O.Bean]

Thanks for the info and disscution about this. I guess I will get a PS2 and run the split after that. Now to run the LB>R09, Ill just have to get a new pair of mics Quitting smoking is going to allow me to buy whatever I want and save 300/month on cigs

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Y cables or real splitters?

Y cables.

[Church-Audio]

Y cables or real splitters?

Y cables.

I think the main thing to come away with here is there are variables like what preamps and what mics you will be using.. Sometimes you can get away with it sometimes not.. In a case like this I say its better to spend the extra cash and get something that will do the job. If you have the ability to really evaluate the changes going on in an objective manor then you can always try a Y cable..

[F.O.Bean]

o what do you consider "safe" Getting a PS2 and splitting the signal after the PS2. Or getting those mic splitter boxes and doing the split that way

[Todd R]

Y cables or real splitters?

Y cables.

I think the main thing to come away with here is there are variables like what preamps and what mics you will be using.. Sometimes you can get away with it sometimes not.. In a case like this I say its better to spend the extra cash and get something that will do the job. If you have the ability to really evaluate the changes going on in an objective manor then you can always try a Y cable..

Yeah, this has me curious to learn more from the people who have noticed a difference to see if there are any commonalities -- eg, transformer mics or not, perhaps electret or not, high or medium impedence recorders, split mics into preamps or recorders, did the split mics go into two different preamps and/or recorders that might have different input impedences or did they go into a single 4ch or multichannel recorder, etc.

I think I have only split a mic signal once or twice (more often have split a soundboard signal into multiple recorders, or split a line-level preamp signal into multiple recorders).  I don't remember hearing a difference or noticing something off, but the effect may have been there and I hadn't noticed it.

[ArchivalAudio]

Y cables or real splitters?

Y cables.

I think the main thing to come away with here is there are variables like what preamps and what mics you will be using.. Sometimes you can get away with it sometimes not.. In a case like this I say its better to spend the extra cash and get something that will do the job. If you have the ability to really evaluate the changes going on in an objective manor then you can always try a Y cable..

Yeah, this has me curious to learn more from the people who have noticed a difference to see if there are any commonalities -- eg, transformer mics or not, perhaps electret or not, high or medium impedence recorders, split mics into preamps or recorders, did the split mics go into two different preamps and/or recorders that might have different input impedences or did they go into a single 4ch or multichannel recorder, etc.

I think I have only split a mic signal once or twice (more often have split a soundboard signal into multiple recorders, or split a line-level preamp signal into multiple recorders).  I don't remember hearing a difference or noticing something off, but the effect may have been there and I hadn't noticed it.

I agree it seem to me that there is no degradation using an XLR  Y splitter on a soundboard feed, but may be I am wrong?

[Church-Audio]

Y cables or real splitters?

Y cables.

I think the main thing to come away with here is there are variables like what preamps and what mics you will be using.. Sometimes you can get away with it sometimes not.. In a case like this I say its better to spend the extra cash and get something that will do the job. If you have the ability to really evaluate the changes going on in an objective manor then you can always try a Y cable..

Yeah, this has me curious to learn more from the people who have noticed a difference to see if there are any commonalities -- eg, transformer mics or not, perhaps electret or not, high or medium impedence recorders, split mics into preamps or recorders, did the split mics go into two different preamps and/or recorders that might have different input impedences or did they go into a single 4ch or multichannel recorder, etc.

I think I have only split a mic signal once or twice (more often have split a soundboard signal into multiple recorders, or split a line-level preamp signal into multiple recorders).  I don't remember hearing a difference or noticing something off, but the effect may have been there and I hadn't noticed it.

I agree it seem to me that there is no degradation using an XLR  Y splitter on a soundboard feed, but may be I am wrong?

Sound board feed is different than a mic split.. I have 100% for sure heard the difference the first time I heard it I had to do the show with no kick drum in the monitor because it degraded the signal so badly.

[Chuck]

It probably would not be too difficult to build an active splitter using op-amps and a 9v battery.
I made a couple of active direct boxes once for use in sound reinforcement using TL072's.

[F.O.Bean]

So, PS2>splitters>preamps or Mic Splitters boxes>preamps or Y cable

[F.O.Bean]

So, PS2>splitters>preamps or Mic Splitters boxes>preamps or Y cable

What do yinz suggest

[F.O.Bean]

Oh and my LB got modded so I can turn Phantom ON/OFF

[TNJazz]

start with simple Y cables

I seriously doubt you'll notice much difference in mic performance if the cables are good quality and wired properly

If it doesn't work, then add a PS-2.  You'll still need the Y cables anyway, so there's no reason not to try the simplest solution and work up from there.

Phantom on from one box, off from the other.

[F.O.Bean]

littlebox's input impedance goes high with phantom off, so it won't load the mic hardly any at all.  With phantom on, it's still only 4K.  If all gear is battery powered, I would use a Y-cable.

start with simple Y cables

I seriously doubt you'll notice much difference in mic performance if the cables are good quality and wired properly

If it doesn't work, then add a PS-2.  You'll still need the Y cables anyway, so there's no reason not to try the simplest solution and work up from there.

Phantom on from one box, off from the other.

Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I'm going to try it

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Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I'm going to try it

Do you need cables or do you already have Y cables? (I have some)