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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #165 on: November 10, 2011, 12:12:49 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #166 on: November 10, 2011, 01:14:48 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #167 on: November 10, 2011, 01:23:18 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
what is the other design option? the one that goes down in size about half way back?
i much rather the straight how you are doing it now, it makes it much easier to put into a shock imo, its just like a mini body
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2011, 01:31:58 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
what is the other design option? the one that goes down in size about half way back?
i much rather the straight how you are doing it now, it makes it much easier to put into a shock imo, its just like a mini body

Yes, this one is straight. No step down half way back. 21 mm, same as cap size, the entire length with a chamfer at the bottom. These things are tiny. Kudos to Jon for figuring out how to stuff these with electronics. :)

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2011, 01:36:12 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
what is the other design option? the one that goes down in size about half way back?
i much rather the straight how you are doing it now, it makes it much easier to put into a shock imo, its just like a mini body

Yes, this one is straight. No step down half way back. 21 mm, same as cap size, the entire length with a chamfer at the bottom. These things are tiny. Kudos to Jon for figuring out how to stuff these with electronics. :)

wouldn't the step down make these compatible with the NOLA bars though?  if these are just going to be going into a regular shock mount, why not just run full bodies?  am i missing something?
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2011, 01:49:13 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
what is the other design option? the one that goes down in size about half way back?
i much rather the straight how you are doing it now, it makes it much easier to put into a shock imo, its just like a mini body

Yes, this one is straight. No step down half way back. 21 mm, same as cap size, the entire length with a chamfer at the bottom. These things are tiny. Kudos to Jon for figuring out how to stuff these with electronics. :)

wouldn't the step down make these compatible with the NOLA bars though?  if these are just going to be going into a regular shock mount, why not just run full bodies?  am i missing something?
well depends on your mount
if you had one like the DPA use with the triangle "rubber band" inside or if you have AT mounts
i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #171 on: November 10, 2011, 02:12:23 PM »
i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good

Can you point me to a picture of those rubberband shock mounts? I can't find them on the WindTech site.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #172 on: November 10, 2011, 02:15:25 PM »
Can't there be something like ed's solution?
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #174 on: November 10, 2011, 02:54:52 PM »
This is my plan if we don't make the capsule couplings workable with already existing mounting solutions.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=117392.msg1584500#msg1584500
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2011, 03:10:00 PM »
I should have 2 samples ready to send to Jon early next week for fitting and testing. Also getting closer to a price. The hold up on that is quantity. But it looks to be well under 10 dollars a piece for brass. The samples will be based on Jon's design with a straight 21 mm OD. No step down. Top will be threaded for the cap and the bottom will be a 9mm bore hole per Jon's prints. Interior dimensions per Jon's prints.

About a half dozen folks have said OK. Please check the drawings Jon made using the emachineshop program. It's a free download. That is the one I am having made minus the step down on the OD. It is important that everyone knows that. I do not want to make 40 - 50 pairs only to find out that not everyone is cool with this design.
what is the other design option? the one that goes down in size about half way back?
i much rather the straight how you are doing it now, it makes it much easier to put into a shock imo, its just like a mini body

Yes, this one is straight. No step down half way back. 21 mm, same as cap size, the entire length with a chamfer at the bottom. These things are tiny. Kudos to Jon for figuring out how to stuff these with electronics. :)

wouldn't the step down make these compatible with the NOLA bars though?  if these are just going to be going into a regular shock mount, why not just run full bodies?  am i missing something?
well depends on your mount
if you had one like the DPA use with the triangle "rubber band" inside or if you have AT mounts
i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #176 on: November 10, 2011, 03:10:34 PM »
This is my plan if we don't make the capsule couplings workable with already existing mounting solutions.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=117392.msg1584500#msg1584500

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #177 on: November 10, 2011, 03:11:34 PM »
This is my plan if we don't make the capsule couplings workable with already existing mounting solutions.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=117392.msg1584500#msg1584500

that looks nice!
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #178 on: November 10, 2011, 08:47:20 PM »
i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good

Can you point me to a picture of those rubberband shock mounts? I can't find them on the WindTech site.
this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/298919-REG/WindTech_SP_20_SP_20_Microhone_Shockmount.html
they went up since i got mine for $6
they are actually 20mm, its a solid and tight fit on 460/80, perfect for 39x
you can side the collette in to the cap with the cable coming out the back

i like the looks of those pinch mounts in the schoeps thread and your naks too
basically what i was thinking with the windtech without having to buy anything, but the windtech way would def be bigger then the other 2
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #179 on: November 10, 2011, 09:43:55 PM »
this mounting set up was bought to be used with akg 460's, but sold my lot of them.  think its going to work very well for a long time.  ed 
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