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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #300 on: December 15, 2011, 01:19:12 PM »
any ideas how these actives should sound versus the 480's?
Everyone whom has participated on this thread is wondering the exact same thing...Hope to hear something by the first of the year!

The only thing remotely close is Ted's CK1x and Naiant PFA rig he just started running...he felt it sounded fine compared to the old C460b body and AKG Active Cable setup...

Here's one of my recordings with the CK1x>Tinybox. I think the setup is just fine. A tad warmer than your typical AKG sound.

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2011-07-16.akg.suraci.114603.flac16

Also I have Phish MSG coming up. A Christmas present sure would be nice. ;)

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #301 on: December 15, 2011, 02:31:39 PM »

The only thing remotely close is Ted's CK1x and Naiant PFA rig he just started running...he felt it sounded fine compared to the old C460b body and AKG Active Cable setup...

The other thing that might be somewhat close is the old ck6X capsules > JKlabs boxes (ECMS or DVC).  I'd assume the jklabs setups using the ck6x caps would probably sound more akin to what these Naiant solutions will be than the ck1x caps, given that the capsule will have more of an effect on sound than the preamp/PFA/whatever. 

Either way though, it sounds like Ted found the PFA setup with the ck1x caps to sound like the caps did with the 460 bodies, and I found the ck6x caps with the jklabs ECMS box to sound very similar to the to the ck6x caps with the 480 bodies, having owned and ran both.  You're changing around the electronics behind the capsules with this new setup so it's bound to sound a little different on close examination, but I'd wager that it still will sound very much like the ck6x caps sound with the 480 bodies (and perhaps a bit different from the 460 bodies, since those are transformer mics).
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #302 on: December 20, 2011, 12:16:09 AM »
Meanwhile in the camera/lens world.. just to give some inspiration.. sorry going O.O.T but this is closely related...

Ed Mika + others (@ Ontario, Canada) knew that there were no proper FD-EF adapters / conversion kits.. that would make it possible to mount old FD lenses without extra glass (makes lens slower, softer etc.) into Canon EOS DSLRs (EF mount) and started building their own full blown CNC setup to do these brass mount conversion kits themselves and selling these in ebay... they started with FD Tilt Shift lens conversion kit (as this is a conversion kit and not adapter due the sensor distance problem that requires the extra glass)

The mount is full brass and was thinking that if it would be fruitful to ask these guys if they want to contribute the collettte into this project as well?

Discussion thread here about the CNC setup etc.:
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,2337.0.html

pics of the setup:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ontarian/6459076305/

ebay containing the story w/ finished product:
http://r.ebay.com/m8EhDp

that spring especially looks interesting.. F1 suspension go figure? err

bought this yesterday myself + the solid built FD TS lens that I found from the local auction site (that is btw ~1.5k$ cheaper than the EF modern TS-E lens.. )
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #303 on: December 22, 2011, 12:27:40 PM »
any ideas how these actives should sound versus the 480's?
Everyone whom has participated on this thread is wondering the exact same thing...Hope to hear something by the first of the year!

The only thing remotely close is Ted's CK1x and Naiant PFA rig he just started running...he felt it sounded fine compared to the old C460b body and AKG Active Cable setup...

Here's one of my recordings with the CK1x>Tinybox. I think the setup is just fine. A tad warmer than your typical AKG sound.

http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2011-07-16.akg.suraci.114603.flac16

Also I have Phish MSG coming up. A Christmas present sure would be nice. ;)

nice, thanks!
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #304 on: January 01, 2012, 06:13:59 PM »
2012 Bump...

I hope someone received a Test Pair...and made a recording over the Holidays...
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #305 on: January 01, 2012, 07:59:26 PM »
2012 Bump...

I hope someone received a Test Pair...and made a recording over the Holidays...
They work awesome
I love them so much
Whoops it's 1/1 not 4/1  :P
Happy new yr, looking forward to lot of good info soon on te project
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #306 on: January 01, 2012, 08:33:02 PM »
2012 Bump...

I hope someone received a Test Pair...and made a recording over the Holidays...
They work awesome
I love them so much
Whoops it's 1/1 not 4/1  :P
Happy new yr, looking forward to lot of good info soon on te project

Eagerly awaiting a sample...
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #307 on: January 01, 2012, 09:16:51 PM »
2012 Bump...

I hope someone received a Test Pair...and made a recording over the Holidays...
They work awesome
I love them so much
Whoops it's 1/1 not 4/1  :P
Happy new yr, looking forward to lot of good info soon on te project

Eagerly awaiting a sample...


Me too. If you want actives so bad, go Busman/Milab/Neumann/MBHO/Schoeps ;)
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #308 on: January 06, 2012, 12:49:17 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #309 on: January 06, 2012, 03:58:03 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

especially if you already have the caps and like that sound signature.
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #310 on: January 06, 2012, 04:06:28 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

Delusions of grandeur...

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #311 on: January 06, 2012, 04:59:36 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

Delusions of grandeur...

For those with ears like mine, sounding as good as schoeps is a pretty low hurdle. :P

Now trying to best the sound of gefells or milabs -- well that is a worthy goal. :)
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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #312 on: January 06, 2012, 05:05:55 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

Delusions of grandeur...

For those with ears like mine, sounding as good as schoeps is a pretty low hurdle. :P

Now trying to best the sound of gefells or milabs -- well that is a worthy goal. :)

Let me get you the info for a good audiologist. ;)

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #313 on: January 06, 2012, 05:39:04 PM »
This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

That's like saying the sound of a couple of skeletons banging on a tin roof will improve if they use a condom.

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Re: AKG Active Project part 4
« Reply #314 on: January 06, 2012, 10:51:58 PM »
bean, we are patiently waiting for one very good reason. Price. This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

Delusions of grandeur...

For those with ears like mine, sounding as good as schoeps is a pretty low hurdle. :P

Now trying to best the sound of gefells or milabs -- well that is a worthy goal. :)

Let me get you the info for a good audiologist. ;)

This rig will cost 1/3 of your schoeps rig and sound just as good. :o ;D :P ;)

That's like saying the sound of a couple of skeletons banging on a tin roof will improve if they use a condom.


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Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/diskobean
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