AKGefell Active Project v5

[acidjack]

Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

When is your setup being released and how much will it cost?

Where's that popcorn smiley when I need it....?

[bryonsos]

Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

When is your setup being released and how much will it cost?

Where's that popcorn smiley when I need it....?

[Colin Liston]

I don't get why people are complaining about pricing.  Don't buy them if you think they are too expensive.  It's that simple.

[willndmb]

We know Jons sounds good http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=159568.0 , We can assume follows does too
are the differences in cost worth it based on the rest of the design/setup? Thats a personal thing each individual needs to weigh.
I feel there are plus/minus to both designs for me. (for example)
do they replace the body
do they fit a kwon bar or do I need another mount
can the cables be fixed easy/changed in length fast and easy
are they easy to stealth
Do Jons cover all of these/does Follows cover all of these? Is there something one has over the other? is there something Follows has that makes it worth the extra money? All of these depend on each user and each user should weigh their options.
I think everyone at least thought for a minute why is this one more or less then the other - now just look at the complete design and see which one is best for you.
I don't feel people need to give either design a hard time because they both are progress and imo good.
On the flip side I don't feel people need to give a member a hard time for posting their opinions/questions.
Thanks to everyone who has worked on these including 11 and here's to hoping his comes to life too

[NOLAfishwater]

I don't get why people are complaining about pricing.  Don't buy them if you think they are too expensive.  It's that simple.

[acidjack]

We know Jons sounds good http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=159568.0 , We can assume follows does too
are the differences in cost worth it based on the rest of the design/setup? Thats a personal thing each individual needs to weigh.

This.  As I see it these are the questions: 
1. Is there a manufacturer-based solution?  (For Schoeps, yes, AKG, sort-of (the out-of-production CK1x), Gefell, no) 
2. Do you like the price? (and if you have a branded alternative, relative to that alternative?)
3. Do you like the sound?
4. Does the convenience/form factor improve you rig?
5. Does it work with your existing stuff?

To me, the AKG and Gefell solutions are the most exciting because they don't have any existing in-production product they compete with.  Not that the Schoeps solution doesn't also have good things to say for it, but it obviously has Schoeps-branded products to compete against. 

As to the price of one set vs. the other, well, the prices for both ought to be what the market will bear.  Once they've both seen more time in the field I am sure people will have opinions.  And what is right for one person may not be for another.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

I don't see why people must cunt up this thread.

Funny, coming from someone who rips off designs.

[edtyre]

People have been talking about this stuff for years (and there was ONLY talk) now that a few folks
have the balls to take it to completion, there are complaints.....the market will dictate the price.
I'm sure lots of Gefell users won't be waitin on a cheaper solution. Thanks guys, can't wait to try em.

[NOLAfishwater]

I don't see why people must cunt up this thread.

Funny, coming from someone who rips off designs.

which were ripped off by Kwon from Schoeps originally, so STFU. I only made the mounts b/c apparently nobody was making them anymore and I wanted some of my own. I also added the following mounts to the line: ORTF, wORTF, MidSide, short Vertical Address AB, long Vertical Address AB. Anything esle? 

[it-goes-to-eleven]

I don't see why people must cunt up this thread.

Funny, coming from someone who rips off designs.

which were ripped off from Schoeps originally, so STFU. I only made the mounts b/c apparently nobody was making them anymore and I wanted some of my own. I also added the following mounts to the line: ORTF, wORTF, MidSide, short Vertical Address AB, long Vertical Address AB. Anything esle? 

Schoeps never produced the vertical address bar.  That was my design.

You ripped that one off from me.

[NOLAfishwater]

I don't see why people must cunt up this thread.

Funny, coming from someone who rips off designs.

which were ripped off from Schoeps originally, so STFU. I only made the mounts b/c apparently nobody was making them anymore and I wanted some of my own. I also added the following mounts to the line: ORTF, wORTF, MidSide, short Vertical Address AB, long Vertical Address AB. Anything esle? 

Schoeps never produced the vertical address bar.  That was my design.

You ripped that one off from me.

there was a void, i put up the cash to have them made, and finally I delivered the product. less yapping, more action. keep in mind that I never did this to make money but simply to satisfy people's demand for it. I have a day job and this is pretty much a waste of my time.

[followinbob]

alot of work inside these things to make them lighter. yes the .315 diameter is same as schoeps on all colettes to fit the bars out there. thought about right angle side exit to make them shorter and lighter but you would need my hat clips. i would also have to make mini shock mounts for the stand guys. if i run my schoeps open taping i use the bodies though so i don't understand just putting capsules on a stand.

as far as stealing someones design louie and i both had the idea for a bar i am making.  the one i already made is too cool, beefy and i am sure too expensive for 90% of the people on here. it is capable of putting probably 10 pairs of mics on it. maybe more.

[NOLAfishwater]

don't think he was referring to the 2' bar but rather the delrin stereo mounts.

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if i run my schoeps open taping i use the bodies though so i don't understand just putting capsules on a stand.

it's useful for situations where you're supposed to keep a very limited visual imprint (either to hide that you're taping a band that allows taping, but not where you're setup, or when you're running on stage or stage lip). Thats the biggest use. The only other one I've seen is weight; if you have to put 10 or 15+ pairs of mics on a stand without exceeding the weight limitations of support equipment.

[followinbob]

idk. i have a beefy stand. i am a steath guy anyway. schoeps---->722.  all the fuss about tiny stuff and i have never not sneaked it in and i have never been caught going in. been snitched out twice inside the show. people i know did it too.  came up with the 2 foot wide beefy bar through taping los lobos. a few places we were at there was only room for one stand.  just thought it would be cool to fit everyone if we had to.