Sony m-10 Battery Pack

[obaaron]

What do most people use for the Sony m-10?  I am planing on using my new one at an upcoming festival and want something I can use for the whole weekend and also use for my Zoom H4N as well.  I have been using Lithium energizers in my Zoom for now but want something that will last longer and produce less waste.  Can I run the lithium energizers in my new M-10 as well? And if so how many hours can i expect to get out of them?

If anyone has any feedback on a good, somewhat inexpensive option that I can use for both units please post.

I'm a newb so thanks for the feedback!

[audBall]

A single pair of alkaline batteries will run the m10 for hours and hours (20-30, maybe more?).  I've been running mine on the same pair since the Pleistocene. 

[bluewingolive]

A single pair of alkaline batteries will run the m10 for hours and hours (20-30, maybe more?).  I've been running mine on the same pair since the Pleistocene.

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[achalsey]

As others said, you don't really need it, but if you really want extra battery life, this most likely would work:

http://www.batteryspace.com/batteryholderaax4withusbinterfaceconnectorandbeltcliponoffpowerswitch-rohscompliant.aspx

Get a radio shack USB chord with changeable tips.  M10 uses a size A tip.  Zoom probably uses a size M (assuming since thats what the H4 apparently  used)

[Fried Chicken Boy]

I imagine you could also use the Digicom DC-EPP3000 Power Pack.  It appears to be an updated (and less expensive) version of the iConcepts PP-99, which I own and have good results with on my R-09 and R-05.  Since the Sony requires the same power as the Edirol/Roland decks, I'd bet it would work just fine.  As a single caveat, I had to pick up some adapt-a-plugs and a short cable at Radioshack as the tips that came with the power pack didn't fit my recorders.

[obaaron]

Thanks for the responses!

[weroflu]

holocene

three times now the battery has gone down one bar, and then the next time i turn it on it is back to full charge.

[ArchivalAudio]

Powerex MAHA  2700mAH AA Rechargeable from Thomas distributing.
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-Four-2700-mAh-AA-NIMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_20.html

charger
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/Maha-MH-C204FA-DC-AA--AAA-Charger_p_388.html
or combo
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-Maha-MHC204W-White-World-Charger-with-Deluxe-Bag-and-4-Maha-2700-AA-Batteries-Combo_p_297.html

if you need 8 or 16 AA's
here's 8
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-POWEREX-2700-mAh-AA--8-NiMH-Rechargeable-Batteries_p_369.html
also have a 16 pack

they will last for 30 + hours 4 can get you a back up set of 2

[fmaderjr]

Can I run the lithium energizers in my new M-10 as well? And if so how many hours can i expect to get out of them?

I would never do this unless the very long run times provided by alkalines or rechargeables aren't long enough for your purposes. The only situation I can think of where you might want longer run times than provided by rechargeables would be unattended nature recording. Even for festivals, you just swap out the batteries at the end of each day.

No recorders I know of have have a setting to calibrate the battery meter for lithiums. You'll never know when they need to be replaced. With most recorders, the meter will show battery full until very shortly before it goes dead.

I recommend low self discharge NiMh's like the Imedion 2400 mAhs.

[eman]

I just posted in another thread on the same subject- NiMH from the hardware store work fine, especially for something that draws so little current. Procedure with recharging is required- always put a pair of fairly well discharged batteries in together and make sure they charge for some good solid hours. No reason to fill the landfill with toxic waste, rechargeables are also recycleable.

[F.O.Bean]

I switch out my 2300mah Energizer Rechargeable AA's round the 15 hour mark

[stevetoney]

No recorders I know of have have a setting to calibrate the battery meter for lithiums. You'll never know when they need to be replaced. With most recorders, the meter will show battery full until very shortly before it goes dead.

While this is probably true, I don't really see it as a big deal.  The number of bars on our meters is just an indication of the battery voltage.  New lithiums spec out at the same voltage as new rechargeables, so I'd think you could get a good general indication of the amount of juice left if you just choose a battery type that has a comparable starting voltage as your lithium. 

As far as the manner in which the bars disappear, that also is just a function of the fact that voltage drops fast as the battery depletes itself...which is no different between a rechargeable and a lithium if you check the battery discharge curves in the spec sheets.

[tapinfool]

No recorders I know of have have a setting to calibrate the battery meter for lithiums. You'll never know when they need to be replaced. With most recorders, the meter will show battery full until very shortly before it goes dead.

While this is probably true, I don't really see it as a big deal.  The number of bars on our meters is just an indication of the battery voltage.  New lithiums spec out at the same voltage as new rechargeables, so I'd think you could get a good general indication of the amount of juice left if you just choose a battery type that has a comparable starting voltage as your lithium. 

As far as the manner in which the bars disappear, that also is just a function of the fact that voltage drops fast as the battery depletes itself...which is no different between a rechargeable and a lithium if you check the battery discharge curves in the spec sheets.

i run nothing but lithiums

i get 60+ hrs of recording time

for instance i put new ones in on march 8th 2012. have recorded at least 40 hrs since then.
and i just finished up 20hrs of recording at a festie this past weekend and still have full bars.

i always have 2 fresh lithiums on hand and can swap them out in less than a minute.

i won't run anything else in my m-10

[F.O.Bean]

No recorders I know of have have a setting to calibrate the battery meter for lithiums. You'll never know when they need to be replaced. With most recorders, the meter will show battery full until very shortly before it goes dead.

While this is probably true, I don't really see it as a big deal.  The number of bars on our meters is just an indication of the battery voltage.  New lithiums spec out at the same voltage as new rechargeables, so I'd think you could get a good general indication of the amount of juice left if you just choose a battery type that has a comparable starting voltage as your lithium. 

As far as the manner in which the bars disappear, that also is just a function of the fact that voltage drops fast as the battery depletes itself...which is no different between a rechargeable and a lithium if you check the battery discharge curves in the spec sheets.

i run nothing but lithiums

i get 60+ hrs of recording time

for instance i put new ones in on march 8th 2012. have recorded at least 40 hrs since then.
and i just finished up 20hrs of recording at a festie this past weekend and still have full bars.

i always have 2 fresh lithiums on hand and can swap them out in less than a minute.

i won't run anything else in my m-10

Damn, 60+ hours Thats INSANE buddy

But youve only recorded 40hrs since that moe. show? Slacker J/K Kev

I have recorded around 200+ hours this summer at 3 Phish shows and Summer Camp/Electric Forest/All Good/Rootwire Recording all that shit has KILLED me tho. I wont be done uploading those HOURS of recordings til next May probably Just in time for Summer Camp

Thats why I sold my Busman BSC2 rig. Recording 2 stages at big festies just isnt for me Its just TOO damn much work