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Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 04:16:50 PM »
Hello... I am going to be ordering one of the Tiny boxes in a day or so . I just want to get a few opinions. I will be getting the one for the schoeps (5 pin binder). The creator said that he can customize the gain settings. I was thinking 10 20 30. What are your thoughts thanks!
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Standard amplifier
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schoeps > tiny box >m10
I plan to stealth and open tape jam band shows..
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 08:20:17 PM »
Great choice. You might consider sticking with the slightly lower default gain settings. I almost always find that my mid gain setting is sufficient with my Sony m10 set to 3. Occasionally I want to go down from there on the tinybox and I'd rather have too little gain for a situation than too much. I've found the low gain setting necessary when running at stage lip or in clubs with loud PAs.
I'm not sure I have ever needed to use the high gain except for recording some non-amplified music.
In fact if I was ordering one today I might do 0, 10, 20
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September 16, 2014, 08:24:58 PM »
Mine is 10, 20, 30 and I have never used the 30 setting, if I were to get another, I might do 8,16,24
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 08:59:38 PM »
I have stock and have never used high, mostly mid, occasionally low
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 09:08:24 PM »
Same here mine has 4,18,32. And i only have used the mid setting of 18.
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September 16, 2014, 09:57:53 PM »
over all is every one happy with the pre amp?
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 10:22:39 PM »
Love mne...once you get your in hand im sure you will feel the same
Mine is also 4,18 and 32 always run on 18..
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 16, 2014, 10:44:54 PM »
Is there a big difference between 18 and 20? I am thinking I might get a stock one . 4 18 32..
I was thinking 10 20 30
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September 16, 2014, 11:06:27 PM »
Love mine too
Not as much as my littlebox but real close
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 17, 2014, 09:48:36 AM »
I love mine. I have the stock gain settings and always run either low or medium.
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 17, 2014, 10:27:39 AM »
could someone confirm what the stock gain settings are for me thanks!
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 17, 2014, 10:37:32 AM »
4, 18, 32. I had to search for a bit on the Naiant site to find them again.
Look for "Gain control" about halfway down:
http://naiant.com/tinybox-specification/
You got me thinking about this some more and I think I'd stick with the defaults for another one
Also to keep consistent with my first one.
Not presented as a head to head comp at all (or anything of the sort!) , just an anecdotal reference I ran "Schoeps MK5 > KCY > Tinybox > M10" Thur night and "MK5 > KC5/CMC6 > USBPre2 > R-44" Fri and sat night at Camp Barefoot (
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=169829.0
) and I don't have any complaints at all with how my recordings turned out either night (other than my apparent spdif cable issue which is my own deal of course)
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 17, 2014, 11:00:27 AM »
What you'll use depends on what you record but the stock setting should be fine. I have the stock setting and rarely run low but don't do a lot of very loud shows. I have had to run high for unamplified classical and acoustic stuff in large rooms, so like having that. I nearly always run mid though. You'll probably use low and mid...
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September 17, 2014, 01:12:44 PM »
Thanks for your input. I ordered a tiny box with the standard gains
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Re: Tiny Box Help
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September 17, 2014, 02:09:24 PM »
while not mentioned in your posts and perhaps too late, don't forget to consider the Output Transformer option --
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